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May 23, 2023

P: Generated images violate user guidelines

 

So as you can see, it's a PG-13 relatively inoffensive image of a woman in a bunny outfit. The top worked fine, and I was able to complete the top ear, which is cool. When I tried to extend the bottom with generative fill, though, I got this warning. They're just a pair of legs wearing stockings, and I wanted to extend it.

It feels like a false flag - though I could be wrong? I find myself thinking it would do the same for women in swimsuits.

Figured I'd share here.

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Thomas 42541987
Known Participant
June 2, 2023

Please don´t get me wrong. I do not blame anyone. I would like to get some answers.
Maybe it´s a freaking bot, but Adobe built it and set the rules. (As Midjourney does.)
I think there is a new universe of possibilities and we the people (and the developers?) haven't thought about the implications yet.
So it's safer for AI companies to block certain things at the moment.

Photoshake
Known Participant
June 2, 2023

The guidelines don't actually say "No NSFW" they say not to use it to create pornographic or harmful content. 

Participating Frequently
June 2, 2023

We can blame Adobe for the improper wording. The message should them say that the image that the Adobe AI created does not meet Adobe Guidelines, but as currently worded it means that your image does not meet Adobe Guidelines. They have to fix this to avoid consumer rejection of the program. Right now only an Adobe Rep can assure me that they are not tallying the people with the guideline messages. Most likely not, because of it being a beta program, but proper assurance from Adobe staff would make me feel more comfortable to use it.

Participating Frequently
June 2, 2023

About the not being tallied by Adobe, I would like to hear that from an Adobe Rep or Adobe's legal department. Too bad that a company that makes billions a year is not able to have proper support staff and only relies on a comunity to answer questions. Not saying that you are wrong and at least thanks for responding, but Adobe has to have personnel that can answer these questions and be liable for the answer. If you are mistaken, Adobe will claim that the answer was from a community member and not an Adobe associate. Just a simple way to avoid legal liability

daniellei4510
Community Expert
Community Expert
June 2, 2023

Let's not blame Adobe just yet. Remember...when technology like this comes around, pornographers are the first to jump in and use it to their advantage. That said, it has nothing to do with censorship. It's a freaking bot, not a human, making these judgement calls based on what the bot creates, not what we specifically ask for. And if you think this is bad, do a Google search for words banned on Midjourney. Like pixie, for example. Or transparent. Everybody calm down. 🙂

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Thomas 42541987
Known Participant
June 2, 2023

I feel extremely uncomfortable when my tools tell me what I'm allowed to do with them!

What would our culture be like if...

Michelangelo's chisels hadn't worked because their manufacturers didn't like depictions of naked men?

Sandro Botticelli's brushes had failed because they were not allowed to paint a Venus?

The tool I use judges what I am allowed to do? Really?

Is that censorship?
Any response from ADOBE? 

Slowbud
Participating Frequently
June 2, 2023

I'm curious what happens when the bug is removed.
In many parts of the world, NSFW regulations are not nearly as restrictive as in the US. Topl-e-s-s women are even shown on public TV. (oh, naked men too ;-)) (In my case Europe / Germany, and don't ask what's going on in France or Italy). For sure countries with large amount of Adobe customers. And then there is artistic freedom. Not all artists create images for Kindergartens.  It is probably the responsibility of the artist what he thinks he can/may publish where.
It's really very annoying that US companies tell artists all over the world what they can and can't do.
This isn't limited to Adobe.

 

PS: Btw, the word t-o-p-less is not allowed in this forum! ... really?, c'mon.

Slowbud
Participating Frequently
June 2, 2023

Well, the guidlines says "No NSFW", this has nothing to do with Beta.

Rocio_Lopez-Bretzlaff
Known Participant
June 2, 2023

Thanks for the tip!  I used the prompt "Fill this space" with the selected area I wanted to change, and it did returned a half decent result!! (wanted to remove a coffee cup covering the elbow of person and the pasts of a hand that were covered by glass. After so many of 'violating guidelines' efforts, seeems like this little trick may be the start of being able to modify the image using Generative Fill. Image used for this test is included.

Rocío López-Bretzlaff
daniellei4510
Community Expert
Community Expert
June 2, 2023

It's not the user violating the guidelines. It's the naughty bot. Since this has happened to me even on totally random objects (for example, I was attempting to remove a feeding tube taped to the cheek of a newborn because the mother wanted some images of her baby without it), I'm sure it's a bug that will eventually get worked out. But, in the meantime, Adobe should adjust the wording of the violation warning to assure us the issue is on their end, not ours. P.S. I did finally get the feeding tube removed with some creative selecting.

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