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May 23, 2023

P: Generated images violate user guidelines

 

So as you can see, it's a PG-13 relatively inoffensive image of a woman in a bunny outfit. The top worked fine, and I was able to complete the top ear, which is cool. When I tried to extend the bottom with generative fill, though, I got this warning. They're just a pair of legs wearing stockings, and I wanted to extend it.

It feels like a false flag - though I could be wrong? I find myself thinking it would do the same for women in swimsuits.

Figured I'd share here.

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daniellei4510
Community Expert
Community Expert
June 9, 2023

Generative Fill DOES work, despite its present drawbacks. The mother of the child in this image I've attached gave me permission to post this. After her baby was born, he required the use of a feeding tube. While she shared photos of her new baby with relatives, she told them to NOT share online any of the baby's photos that included the feeding tube, which in fact it must wear 24/7 for the time being. She asked if I could help, since she knew I was a photo retoucher. To be honest, I'm a pretty good one, but removing the tube using Photoshop would have required a good deal of time, espeically since she wanted a number of images to be retouched. Fortunately, Generative Fill had just been announced and I downloaded the beta to give it a try.

Attached is one example of how incredible this new technology is. I simply selected the bandage on his cheek, along with the orange tubing, and selected Generative Fill, without a text prompt. It worked flawlessly on all four images the mother provided me with and she was finally able to give the go-ahead to relatives and inlaws to post images of her newborn.

Generative Fill works. Not always, but it works. Just don't try to over-extend its capabilities. And don't blame skin as being cause of the issue. It simply isn't true. 

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Participating Frequently
June 9, 2023

After many, many experiments with this beta gen fill and the constant weird fills, I personally choose to believe that I get this message because gen fill tried to created a fill and failed. It does not see the object I am trying to fill, just pixels. Since it does not actually see my object with eyes, it does not understand the scale or connection point, etc. Using a prompt gets an image related to the prompt message but not related to my object. Frankly unless gen fill grows eyes and a human brand, don't know how PS can fix this, except to build in some type of user discussion interface tool which interfaces with logic software, like Chat GPT, to create the perfect prompt. The first step in this beta would be for PS to build a discussion interface and let us know what prompt it created so we can modify it.

daniellei4510
Community Expert
Community Expert
June 9, 2023

Do you, as I do, get the impression that people POST to this board and never really READ the comments and responses? Do people even understand what a beata is about? For starters, this is an editing tool, not a means to create new images. Yeah, youtubers are showing all these crazy instances about removing entire groups of people or replacing a person holding one thing and then holding something completely different, but trust me: they pick and choose in advance what works and what dosen't. Everyone needs to calm down. This technology didn't exist a couple of weeks ago and now you want absolute perfection on a freaking beta. If you don't like it, stop using it. Cancel your Photoshop membership. Go back to doing it manually, if you even adept enough to do so.

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daniellei4510
Community Expert
Community Expert
June 9, 2023

Not sure about that. I think a lot of what photographers and AI creators are doing involve women, so it comes across that way. I've had the same thing happen with blank areas, cows, babies, you name it. I don't believe for a minute that this is the issue.  

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Participating Frequently
June 9, 2023

Please, PLEASE loosen up the community guidelines for generative fill. The current system finds all kinds of PG or G-rated items to violate community standards. It's ridiculous and makes the feature much less useful, which is a shame, because it's an awesome feature.

 

On another note, once the feature leaves beta, I do truly hope all the censorship will depart as well. I pay a lot of money for the creative suite, and I do not do this so I can be thwarted and judged by Adobe.

Michael Bullo
Community Expert
Community Expert
June 9, 2023

What kind of keywords are getting flagged?

Participating Frequently
June 9, 2023

Thanks for your reply, Michael. I don't think it's really about the words in the prompt. I say that because sometimes Photoshop redacts a couple of the generated images for "violating community guidelines," but allows another one to get through. It almost seems as if, if the generated result contains too much skin-like color, then it rejects it. For example, say I've generated a beautiful woman but she has six fingers and no thumb. Maybe I select one of the fingers and ask the generative fill to create a thumb here. Sometimes some of those queries get rejected. There's absolutely nothing sexual about practically any of my asks, but my subjects are often both men and women with some AI-generated flaw. And that's really my point. My requests are in no way sexual, but the AI chokes on them anyway. It's very frustrating! Especially because I know this would be an amazing feature — if only I could consistently use it.

Participating Frequently
June 8, 2023

Naw, I'm thinking at this point it's to stop people from taking a model's picture, lassoing the body and telling it to Generate a nude body. My problem was the opposite. I was trying to PUT bikinis on to nude models so I can put them on Social Media.

 

 

Known Participant
June 8, 2023

Doing great! You seem upset that I have an opinion regarding a poorly implemented late-to-market feature-clone? Have a good day! ❤️ 😘

daniellei4510
Community Expert
Community Expert
June 8, 2023

No one actually knows WHAT the bot is generating. Everyone seems to assume it's nudity. Or violence. In fact, it could be generating such visual gibberish that the bot doesn't even know how to interpret it, so it's only resource is to assume it's against the guidelines. And as far as this issue being fixed soon, don't hold your breath. It took the programmers of Midjourney a year to finally get it to create reasonable looking hands. And they still aren't 100% perfect.

Meanwhile, two weeks ago, Photoshop didn't even HAVE this technology and now everyone is getting upset that it doesn't work more often than it does. But no good deed goes unpunished, as they say. 

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CShubert
Community Manager
Community Manager
June 8, 2023

Hey everybody.

 

We appreciate all the feedback and patience as we work with this exciting tool, and our goal will be to release a finished product that meets all the needs of professionals. In this time of learning and growth, be assured we hear you and are taking all the feedback to the team to sift through.

 

 

Kevin Stohlmeyer
Community Expert
Community Expert
June 8, 2023

You doing ok @J-D-F? You seem really upset over a first generation public beta.