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ClaytonKing
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October 15, 2018

P: Transform/Resize is constrained by default - Want ability to go back to legacy behavior

  • October 15, 2018
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When selecting a layer and dragging a corner handle with the shift (or alt-shift) key pressed, the resize proportion isn't constrained. This started with this most recent update.

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    YAD_Kenton
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    December 14, 2018
    Can someone answer a question for me? I have been paying for my Adobe CC subscription almost since it started. The reason to pay is for support, access to the server to store files you want to access from any Adobe product and share with people. None of which I use. The only reason I pay for CC is the keep the most current version. Well, I just uninstalled the newest version and went back to the last version. So what am I paying for? Do the programs still work if I stop paying?

    I'd start paying again when they release a version I want, but in the meantime, that's a pretty good monthly saving.
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    FeedbackCommunityMember
    Inspiring
    December 13, 2018
    Glad it's not just me!
    lonnyc85144968
    lonnyc85144968
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    December 13, 2018
    The whole thing is a buggy mess. I have returned to cc2018 and have no intention of running the update for 2018 for fear of Adobe screwing that up as well. There is no way I will use the new 2019 version unless the bugs are fixed along with a legacy option given to us.
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    FeedbackCommunityMember
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    December 13, 2018


    I hate it, sorry!  When I hold shift to remove the constraint from the image it's super twitchy both with my Mac track pad and my Wacom tablet.  I have no idea how to fix that and it's super frustrating. I'm running IOS 10.13.6

    I also dislike the fact that it's difficult to get back to the legacy version.  There should be a toggle in Preferences.  I performed the fix, and it defaults back to the new resize version when I restart my computer.
    donbarrum
    donbarrum
    Inspiring
    December 13, 2018
    @801871 giamanco, Yeah, and Look at what CC 2019 brought us, a rather simple color wheel (compared to coolorus), a small upgrade to the HealBrush tool and force shifting two keyboard shortcuts around (multiple undos and free transform)...If that's the rate of features on a yearly update, then one can't expect to a feature request in decades!

    @2849114, well maybe the way they solved required something from Microsoft. But I had other programs that supported both low and HiDPI monitors at the same time, so it's not something that couldn't be done. Also, they way they added it initially before it was fixed, it would have been better if they let windows do the job by scaling it instead. Which is something most were stuck with unless doing an elaborate hack. But once it got fixed, it was solved very well from Adobes part, gotta give them that 🙂 
    Warren Heaton
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    Warren HeatonCommunity Expert
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    December 13, 2018
    Wasn't the HiDPI hold up a Windows issue?  It's never been a problem on the macOS side.  Until Adobe decide to publish an OS as well, they can only worth with what Microsoft and Apple give them. 
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    AG_Graphix
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    December 13, 2018
    @907637...I agree 100%. I think taking "years" to do something is crazy, but I have to wonder one thing: are the people who work on the back end of PS new? Are they software engineers who are just starting out and have never worked on it ever before? Because that would be one of the reasons why it would take so long. If the team working is located in one place and not all over the world, then you're right, there is no reason to take this long to add/remove something in the back end. I once heard that those who work on photoshop are not in the same building as those who work on Illustrator, so having the work on the back end outsourced in different countries may be why it is taking this long. This is not good obviously. 

    I agree about the brush tool; I asked for years indeed for it to allow us to organize our hundreds of brushes.
    donbarrum
    donbarrum
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    December 13, 2018

    @Alexandra Giamanco Well, the HiDPI UI fix took about 4-5 years since people started complaining. the requested brush improvements took even a LOT longer than that. There's a limit to how far one should backtrack tbh 😄 ...Either the team is too small or things take too much time to make in the Photoshop code. Nevertheless it's kind of unfortunate when a feature takes so long that its nearly obsolete when it actually comes out. 

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    AG_Graphix
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    December 13, 2018
    @907637: 
    <But I still think new features in or even the smallest bug requests to fix takes too much effort to get heard. I don't want to place each feature request and fight with claws and nails to get people to upvote them until eventually Adobe listens.>

    I was replying to this above. Meaning, the reason it takes so long is because they are working so far ahead that it's hard to backtrack and fix something. That's what it looks like to me. Their focus is continually moving forward, so when a mistake like this happens, it takes sometime to go back and fix it.
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    AG_Graphix
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    December 13, 2018

    The "silence" In my opinion may be because of "where" this came from. The leaders of that "community" always do unsavory things and then are silent about it. 

    One "justification" I heard on a photography show talking about these Adobe changes and which I found it to be absolutely preposterous, was how "newbies", like 12 year olds, can't be bothered to hold down a key. So, now Adobe is asked to dumb the software down so 12 year olds grow up lazier than they were already. No one considered how this wasn't done across platforms, or how it will affect professionals, so anyone who is starting in PS today, will be confused as to why the "free transform" tool is constrained. 

    Here's a great shortcut to a great cheat sheet.
    https://makeawebsitehub.com/adobe-photoshop-keyboard-shortcuts/

    No one should have any issues following this. I even saw a Braille version of it, so not even blind people would have an issue with that. But it seems that certain people can be doctors but can't learn these shortcuts. 

    The other thing I wanted to mention is that there is no proper way to learn Photoshop outside a graphic design college program except for the classes on Lynda.com which are the ONLY ones comprehensive enough for someone to properly learn how to use Photoshop from A to Z. So, we are dealing with a lot of people who chose not to subscribe to Lynda.com or go to college for graphic design and whom are trying to piece things together from YouTube and the likes. This is very damaging for our Photoshop community because most videos on YouTube are incomplete, the guy/gal speaking mumbles a lot and there is no proper ladder of learning from beginning to end. Not to mention once you've learned something, and start using it over and over until it becomes a reflex. People at large need to understand that there is a learning curve with Photoshop just as much as there is with learning accounting and fly fishing, and skipping steps will only lead to confusion, terrible imagery, and weird retouching jobs. 

    These are three classes that can teach any beginner how to properly use it: 
    https://www.lynda.com/Photoshop-tutorials/Photoshop-CC-2019-Essential-Training-Basics/758637-2.html?...

    https://www.lynda.com/Photoshop-tutorials/Photoshop-CC-2019-Essential-Training-Design/756296-2.html?...

    https://www.lynda.com/Photoshop-tutorials/Photoshop-CC-2019-Essential-Training-Photography/758638-2....

    My kids watch these because they want to take photos sometimes, and of course need to edit them too.

    There is no need to change our tools because someone is too lazy to learn the right way.

    FYI: There are features for Photoshop & Lightroom that are voted on in the KelbyOne community forum, and this is another reason why we're having issues. Most folks there aren't working pro's, but merely occasional users with very little knowledge of Photoshop. Most are retired, and aren't looking to become pro's either.
    <Bridge and other Adobe programs have a bug report and feature request page with voting system, on the adobe support site.  I could not find one for Photoshop.  How can we be sure adobe folks follow this photoshop family thread.  Are there any official folks here already?  Please reassure us that adobe is taking notice...or not.> 

    I am not opposed to changes like I said before; but the changes have to help with our workflows and time management constraints and not go against them. I am sure this didn't seem like a big deal, but that's because those surveyed were not professionals; just amateurs who aren't paid to work in Photoshop. In that community there are surveys sent about these features, like a one question survey, or 4, 5 question surveys, and that is NOT where these survey's need to be sent. These need to be sent to those working in ad agencies, marketing agencies, newspaper and magazines, and anyone's media/marketing departments; professional photography studios for people, food, products, architectural because all use Photoshop one way or another and can add value to it instead of devaluing it. Places where work is done with "time" in mind. 

    I would like to know who was in the audience that cheered on when Terry White announced the Constrain added to the free transform tool at Adobe Max conference. 
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Jzb_R7EizoA

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