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November 7, 2017
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P: Disable built-in lens profile

  • November 7, 2017
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I own Micro43 and compact cameras, where lens profiles are integrated in RAW files. With software like Capture One Pro, I can easily enable or disable theses built-in profiles. Actually, there is even a slider allowing to enable 0% or 100% of the built-in profile, and whatever percentage in between.

In LR (CC, Classic or LR6), the checkox for enabling or disabling profiles does not work with built-in profiles, which always stay enabled. This seriously limits the possibilities of several cameras which possibilities get unleashed by actual RAW developpers like Capture One Pro.

I'm actually a COP user (after switching from LR) but DAM sucks with COP and this built-in lens profile thing is the only deal breaker for me to come back. So please let users disable built-in lens profiles, or at least offer workarounds.

As a workaround, a dumb "zero" profile that would replace the built-in one (not coming on top of it) could do the job.

131 replies

martinfueloep
Participating Frequently
December 14, 2018


I need to disable the embedded lens profile for the DJI Zenmuse X5R camera in Camera Raw CC.
Some other users have requested this feature more than a year ago, but it seems that it still was not recognized by Adobe.
martinfueloep
Participating Frequently
December 14, 2018
@Chris Castleberry:
>Updating the lens or camera firmware will have no effect on
>whether a lens aberration opcode is applied.
>Lightroom and ACR always apply them if they are present.
>There is no way currently to disable this in either application.

This is exactly what we are requesting for: being able to disable the embedded lens profile.

December 14, 2018
It's not relevant because we are talking about built-in profiles, not external ones. Actually, we would like that the built-in profiles work just as external ones, meaning that you can enable or disable them, at will. This is not possible with built-in, and there is no way to override a built-in profile. If you apply an external profile, it comes on top of the built-in one, thus croping the picture even more.
bryanh72432487
Known Participant
December 14, 2018
> If you wish to disable the external profile by default, you can set a new lens profile default (with it disabled) for each lens/camera combination.

How does one go about doing this?
Participant
November 26, 2018
I agree, it should definitely be an option to turn off built-in profiles. Also, Lightroom defaults should also not be changed automatically.Should be an option for things like sharpening, NR etc.
November 22, 2018
Interresting though. On forums, I've been often opposed that LR forces built-in profile so as to respect the develop settings in the RAW files. That's obviously not the case.

That beeing said, not every camera lets the user disable profiles (very nice Nikon in-camera feature BTW, making composition much easier). So I would be happier if Adobe just let people deactivate the built-in profiles, whatever the body settings. After all, LR ignores B&W, color, brightness information in the RAW files. Why would LR take this particular one into account ? The whole purpose of RAW files is precisely to develop differently as the in-body JPEG, not to constraint the user the get the same picture as in-body.
Participating Frequently
October 24, 2018
New Nikon Z7 user here...I'm seeing the "Built-in Lens Profile applied" notification in LR for the first time.  I'm assuming that the Z7 RAW NEF files must include lens profile information that my previous Nikon DSLRs did not.

I can't believe that there's no way to disable the built-in profile in LR.  The whole point of shooting RAW is to be able to make these sorts editing decisions after pressing the shutter.

The Z7 has in-camera options for "Vignette control" and "Auto distortion control" separately.  If both options are turned ON in-camera, Lightroom displays a message that distortion and vignetting have both been automatically corrected.  I'd hoped that by turning these options OFF in-camera that the profile data would not be applied automatically in Lightroom.  The interesting thing is that if I turn both off, the vignetting correction goes away but the distortion correction does not.  Is this a bug?

I confirmed that when creating a Z7 NEF where both distortion and vignetting control were OFF in-camera and opening that RAW file in Nikon's Capture NX-D converter with Lens Corrections set to "Recorded Settings" that neither distortion nor vignetting were corrected.  It seems that the RAW file is being written correctly by the camera.  Why is Lightroom not respecting the camera settings and applying an automatic distortion correction?

Todd Shaner
Legend
December 29, 2017
I believe you are referring to chromatic aberration. It appears LR is incorrectly applying the chromatic aberration correction data embedded in the file. Disabling the built-in lens profile prevents applying the correction data, but that doesn't address the actual problem. I suggest posting this as a separate Problem Report here:

https://feedback.photoshop.com/photoshop_family/topics/new

martinfueloep
Participating Frequently
December 29, 2017

Hi there, I'm having some trouble processing DJI X5R DNGs with Adobe Camera Raw. All DNGs I take with the Olympus Zuiko 25/1.8 show heavy apochromatic refraction AFTER Adobe Camera Raw applies the integrated lens profile.

The proxy-files produced by the X5R do not show any problems, it's the same when I process the files with DJI Cinelight, even when I place the DNG-files in Premiere Pro CC and do the color correction with the Lumetri engine, there is no apchromatic refraction.
So the lens itself should not be the problem

As a test I have used DNG Cleaner for Apple to erase the integrated profile and when doing that, Adobe Camera Raw imports the DNGs without integrated profile and without any apchromatic refraction.

The downside of DNG Cleaner is that it is one more step in processing the RAWs, and Premiere Pro will not accept the files as a sequence.

So it would be great to have the possibility to deactivate the integrated lens profile directly in Adobe Camera Raw!

Here are links to the DNGs:
Original file
(will be accepted by premiere pro cc's media browser, actual version)
File with erased integrated lens profile
(will not be accepted by premiere pro)
Victoria Bampton LR Queen
Community Expert
Community Expert
December 21, 2017
Don't worry Pierre, the request's quite clear. Other people's threads requesting the same feature are being merged in so that all the votes are combined - the more votes, the better chance it has of being implemented. So it's a good thing, honestly.
Victoria - The Lightroom Queen