Skip to main content
ratz2
Participating Frequently
April 1, 2011
Released

P: More Photoshop like clone/healing/content aware brushes

  • April 1, 2011
  • 236 replies
  • 6119 views

More Photoshop like clone/healing brushes in Lightroom!
I love retouching in Photoshop, especially with the content aware fill with the healing tool, but Lightrooms tools are clunky. I don't know if there are technical limitations to implementing tools like Photoshop's in Lightroom but it would be GREAT!
I would rather be able to get a baseline retouched image in Lightroom than having to edit in Photoshop and then come back to Lightroom. I would rather just use Photoshop for image alterations.

236 replies

Inspiring
January 18, 2012
I appreciate that Tom at least acknowledged the request, which he first did during the live web event, but his latest comment on it doesn't sit very well with me for a few reasons. Right off the bat, I felt that this was his way of giving us what we wanted to hear to basically keep us quiet for a while. After all, we can no longer speculate on anything because, A: He said he'd love to add the feature(s) in, but B: just as we already knew... you can't just copy/paste code from PS to LR, plus they "want to get things right".

And just as Jon has observed, that is a load of nonsense in a bucket. Well, at least the latter part. I mean come on... are the GPS and book features going to be all worked out and meet everyone's expectations out of the gate? Right. Just like every other feature that has had bug fixes applied or that has evolved to where they are now. Can we say slider revisions? Can we say addition of highlight control in place of the recovery slider?

That whole comment was a fail AFAIC. Politics as usual. Nothing to see here I'm afraid.

Doug
VeloDramatic
Participating Frequently
January 18, 2012
Right on the money Jon.
Inspiring
January 17, 2012
Seriously. I appreciate the input on the subject from an actual Adobe representative, but this "we have to do it completely and absolutely correctly or we don't do it at all" attitude is contrary to the entire history of Lightroom. From the beginning we knew that all of the tools would evolve over time.

Just the ability to change the shape and rotation or mirroring of the existing tool would be a HUGE improvement. Content aware healing would be nice, but most people seem to agree that the main limiting factor is the static shape and orientation of the tool.

I am very encouraged, though, that this is being seriously considered. I look forward to seeing where they go with it.
VeloDramatic
Participating Frequently
January 17, 2012
All we need is the original brush-based, rubber-stamp clone tool from the earliest days of Photoshop. Forget about content-aware etc for the first iteration.
areohbee
Legend
January 17, 2012
I was surprised by Tom's comments about the distraction removal. Sounds like the reason it's not there yet is because they don't know what to do yet.

I always envisioned something very simple - no need for a lot of fancy options, just brush away distractions... (NX2's brush has no controls but works quite well).
Participating Frequently
January 17, 2012
Here is Tom Hogarty (Adobe’s Lightroom product manager) thought about this topic:
http://lightroomkillertips.com/2012/w...
Participating Frequently
January 17, 2012
Yup, that's what I was implying. I'm not familiar with this community platform, I'm not sure how to identify the moderators, are they members of the community, or appointed by Adobe?

Anyway, this feature request is a train wreck. Nobody bothers looking at the comments anymore. Actually somebody just added yet another comment... that mentions facial recognition. sigh.

What I suggest (it's just a suggestion):
- Let's recreate new topics for sub-requests related to healing/cloning brush,
- Each sub-topic would be tagged "clone" and/or "healing", and the topic title prefixed accordingly (say "Lightroom: Clone Tool: blah blah",
- Each sub-topic could start with one line like this: "PLEASE DO NOT MERGE THIS TOPIC", followed by a paragraph explaining the request itself, followed by a paragraph explaining why this topic should not be merged, pointing to this current mess of a thread. Somebody with a grasp of the English language could come up with that disclaimer 🙂 (i.e., not me),
- If a moderator tries to merge the topic again, the topic owner should try to talk him/her out of it,
- If a commenter tries to pile on that sub-topic, in a way that would lead to a bloated request again, politely re-orient him/her to another topic or suggest he/she creates his/her own topic following the same template.
- Then let's ask a moderator to close this thread.

I do not have a vested interest in the sub-features mentioned so far (my own clone brush request is so minor I didn't bother piling it here), so I would recommend a few people in this thread pick the sub-requests they have at heart, take ownership of the corresponding new topics and keep them un-merged. Maybe in the interest of a consensus we could all work on the list of new topics to create. I'm going to shamelessly steal from M Thicke's bullet points above, a first round of topics could be something like:

* Lightroom: Clone/Healing Tool: Content Aware Fill
* Lightroom: Clone/Healing Tool: Different shaped brushes and Aspect Ratio
* Lightroom: Clone/Healing Tool: Ability to rotate/mirror brushes
* Lightroom: Clone/Healing Tool: Ability to stack/layer multiple clones/healing spots
* Lightroom: Clone/Healing Tool: Better control over edge softness/dither

If you like this idea, mod it up.
Just my 2 cents
Inspiring
January 17, 2012
Hi Sebastien,

I found your response to be a bit over the top to be honest mate. Just wanted to have my 2c. I really have no interest in reading the entire thread. It's super long and I have a business to run. Hope you can understand.
Participating Frequently
January 17, 2012
God Luke, did you just add facial recognition to this feature request?! Did you look one comment above? I beg of you (too)!
Inspiring
January 17, 2012
Please adobe, Please. Change the cloning/healing spot to a brush. This is my only request of you. I beg of you.

If you were also to add facial recognition too i'd be able to move my personal photo's from apple software to adobe, Which i'd love.

These 2 updates would reduce my photo editing software requirements from 4 programs (LR, PS, Aperture & iPhoto) to just LR and that would be a god send.