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ratz2
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April 1, 2011
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  • April 1, 2011
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More Photoshop like clone/healing brushes in Lightroom!
I love retouching in Photoshop, especially with the content aware fill with the healing tool, but Lightrooms tools are clunky. I don't know if there are technical limitations to implementing tools like Photoshop's in Lightroom but it would be GREAT!
I would rather be able to get a baseline retouched image in Lightroom than having to edit in Photoshop and then come back to Lightroom. I would rather just use Photoshop for image alterations.

236 replies

Inspiring
June 4, 2011
Scott, I couldn't agree more with your last statement.

Regarding your question: Some might argue that distraction removal does not need to be non-destructive.

Many image adjustments lend themselves to be re-tweaked at some point and hence should be non-destructive. Distractions, in contrast, are typically not brought back. One could therefore argue that it is fine to use destructive image editing in Photoshop for such cases and no hence ACR support is needed.

I'm not of that opinion, for instance, one may later discover that one needs to do a better job of removing distractions and thus revisit the editing. Also, as I wrote before, I think the current integration with Photoshop or other editors leaves a lot to be desired. But still, the view I provided could be the reason why we won't see distraction removal technology in ACR (and thus in Lightroom).
Inspiring
May 23, 2011
I guess that's one way to look at it. But why should that apply more so to cloning than any other tool that overlaps with PS, of which their are many?

If LR is trying to be a photographer's Swiss Army Knife, cloning is right up there with a screw driver and bottle opener.
Inspiring
May 22, 2011
Scott, I'm not so sure that "they're definitely on it". It might be something that has to be provided through ACR and the question is whether ACR "needs" it. After all, ACR is mostly used in conjunction with PS and the latter comes with its own distraction removal technology. I guess the question is how important it is to support non-destructive distraction removal technology in ACR. I'm slightly concerned that the answer is "not very important" for all ACR contexts but the Lightroom context.
Inspiring
May 22, 2011
One has to assume they're definitely on it. But much like soft proofing, it's not a question of if they want to, but whether they can get it done within the launch cycle.

Or so I assume.
Inspiring
May 22, 2011
We already have one champ (Sean) supporting this very popular idea. It would be fantastic, if an Adobe employee would chime as well and give us an idea about feasibility.
areohbee
Legend
May 16, 2011
Interesting to note, despite all the improvements in C1 of late, they still haven't implemented distraction removal (for more than dust spots I mean). But, NX2 has it, as does Bibble, Aperture, & DPP (and it doesn't slow them down too much - not at all if its not used)... - all parametric/non-destructive. So, we all know if its not in Lightroom, it *won't* be because of technical feasibility or prohibitive performance... Granted, not all distraction removal is created equal, and blended cloning takes far less CPU cycles than content-aware fill... It has to be done well, or people will not be satisfied, but if anybody can do it, Adobe can... - come on Adobe!......
Inspiring
May 16, 2011
Photoshop-like Clone and Heal tools would be a great addition to Lightroom.

The current Clone and Heal brushes are fine for removing "dust bunnies" and circular defects. However, when it comes to removing something like a power line or other essentially linear defect those two tools are pretty crude.
areohbee
Legend
May 16, 2011
This is the single most popular request for Lightroom on this forum (other than new camera support). It is totally doable, no doubt. If not done in Lr4, I wouldn't know what else to conclude except that since its already in Photoshop, it wasn't deemed necessary in Lightroom.

Sure do hope this gets done, or at a minimum Lightroom is modified to allow 3rd party imaging plugins that could do it, or integration with 3rd party editing apps is made more seamless, so they could do it without the photo forking.
areohbee
Legend
May 16, 2011
No doubt.
ratz2
ratz2Author
Participating Frequently
May 16, 2011
Just so you readers from Adobe know this idea is in no way meant to replace Photoshop! I just want to get the image to the base starting point to use it in Lightroom. Like clean dust etc, skin blemishes and fill background area where there wasn't background paper on the edges and things like that.

There's no way that I could do without Photoshop.