P: Please include the same crop overlays (Golden Ratio, Golden Spiral, etc)

hi
nice , after years and years !
but the GUI is horrible !!!!
why this change ??
thanks Adobe

The Main topic as I see was not about the filter within PS. Filter does not need those.
Crop Overlays in ACR opened from file management (ie: "Open With") would be very handy.

Some slight confusion here over the disparity between ACR opened as a filter within Ps vs ACR opened from a file management interface (ie. "Open with")   - I think having the cropping within a filter, within Ps is not necessary, and could lead to confusion, potentially with a hidden crop that you might forget, buried in a smart layer, that would not show when you then selected crop within Ps.

Totally agree, ACR is (ahem, was) a super efficient athlete of a plugin.  Adding some cropping guides to its non-destructive crop tool (currently rather hobbled) would be a small ask and a genuine boost to some.

Why should I use Photoshop at all when all editing goes in Camera Raw opened from Bridge? Camera Raw already has not destructive Crop Tool. It's convenient and you save as final image or export anyway afterwards.
All that needed to have same guiding overlay options (O) for more neat crop.

Thanks Cristen

No, you're not supposed to get crop with overlays in the Camera Raw filter. You're meant to use the crop tool inside PS just as you're doing.  It's not that you can't crop in Camera Raw if you've opened it in PS as a Smart Object—but Smart Objects are wrappers that retain their size, so going back to crop and hoping to retain a non-destructive workflow is problematic, to say the least.

If you crop in PS, you don't have to delete pixels, so the crop doesn't have to be destructive. Choose Reveal All to get the full version back. But note that the same problem exists with 3rd party filters that only recognize the full Smart Object OR the full image that's been cropped with outside pixels retained, even if you run the filter destructively.

It's those 3rd party filters that throw a monkey wrench into the whole thing with non-destructive cropping. Personally, always having to think so many steps ahead when editing hurts my head. <BG>

Yes I am talking about the Camera Raw filter Cristen, sorry about that. I don't have the crop option or the crop overlays at all with Camera Raw filter through Photoshop. Am I meant to have? I've always done my cropping in Photoshop itself.

I have the latest Window OS

In the Camera Raw Filter, you lose the advantage of crop and rotate tools that you would have access to when working on RAW files, no?

> but not through ACR through Photoshop.

You're talking about using File> Open in PS and then choosing a Camera Raw file and not having any overlays? You're not thinking of the Camera Raw Filter, right?

I'm having no problem with all the overlays opening in Camera Raw either through Bridge or through File> Open from PS. But I'm on a Mac running Mojave. Shortcuts work. Right-click works. Other OSes may have their own problems.

I have the overlays in ACR through Bridge, but not through ACR through Photoshop. I do have the overlays in Photoshop.