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April 13, 2011
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P: (PS, Elements, LR) should support Fuji's new CMOS EXR Sensor

  • April 13, 2011
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I would like to see Fuji's newest CMOS-EXR sensors supported in ACR so that Photoshop, Elements and Lightroom are all available to die-hard Adobe users. I've tested the new F550EXR extensively and the new sensor is a winner. The RAW files are amazing for a compact with a 1/2" sensor. See http://kimletkeman.blogspot.com for my articles (31 and counting.)

But my all-Adobe work flow is seriously hampered by Fuji's RAW being forced through its proprietary converter first before I move it to ACR6 and then CS5. It's messy and the results, in my opinion, are inferior to what they would be if I could go directly to ACR6 first and then to CS5 Elements 9 or Lightroom 3. As a long time all Adobe user, I and a lot of others would deeply appreciate support for this wonderful new sensor.


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33 replies

Participating Frequently
April 18, 2011
Why, thanks Chris. It's not every day that I get called a liar ... it's kind of exhilarating 🙂

http://letkeman.net/Photos/invisiblep...

Have a look at the original jpeg from which the top line of crops were taken ... I think you will find the image quality essentially identical, except of course for the fact that the crop image was saved by Adobe CS5 and thus anything that has changed will have come from there. I presume that you are able to discount changes made by Adobe's own software.

I suppose that you have indirectly figured out how Fuji creates such nice looking high ISO images.
Inspiring
April 18, 2011
That's an example of extreme post processing, not the sensor itself. You can see this easily by converting to LAB, then look at the channels: L is detailed but noisy, but A and B are complete blurs (looks like a median filter)
Participating Frequently
April 16, 2011
The fact that Silkypix support the newer EXR cams but NOT the s1002exr tell me something!
Participating Frequently
April 16, 2011
Further thoughts: How good is this sensor?

Well, I was at a Bruce Cockburn concert last night and I can tell you that this sensor is magnificent. At 3200 ISO, I got shots that look like 800 with other compact cams ... in fact, some Panny cams look much worse at 800 ISO. I am able to pull decent detail in Silkypix, but after using it a lot I can just about swear that ACR would give me much better outputs. It's just so much easier to control.

The following image contains crops from an image shot from over 50 feet at full zoom at 3200 ISO with the F550EXR ...

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Participating Frequently
April 16, 2011
Note: A number of people have noticed that Fuji are, in fact, writing some sort of pseudo-RAW instead of pure RAW. Meaning that, although they fire the two halves of the sensor for every shot, they often write only a half-sized (12MB) RAW image instead of a full sized (24MB) image.

This tells us that, under some circumstances, Fuji is performing some internal processing, which alleviates ACR form performing that processing (which would require extra knowledge of the sensor's many modes.)

So it would seem that, when the RAW image is 24MB, it can be treated as a complete image with 16 million individual pixels. And when it is 12MB, the same thing applies, but for 8 million pixels. The binning in SN mode writes a 12MB image and the blended modes -- DR200 and above when shot at M size -- do it too.

This is excellent news in my opinion, as it makes Adobe's task much less onerous. Hint hint 🙂
Participating Frequently
April 15, 2011
Adobe support the the EXR cams and show Silkypix what a good raw is like!
Inspiring
April 14, 2011
For the F550EXR and other Fujifilm RAW files, I'd like to consolidate workflow within Adobe's products, but specifically going forward, the F550. I use LR3 and PSE9.
Participating Frequently
April 14, 2011
Daniel, please press the like button to increase the idea's ranking and notice-ability. Thanks.
Inspiring
April 14, 2011
I have just received the camera today and the first thing was to try RAW. I did not know it is not supported in Adobe Bridge. Disappointed, the main reason I bought this camera rather than the Lumix TZ 20 is that the Fuji 550 EXR can shoot in RAW, and I want to use the Adobe RAW converter, same as for the files from my Canon 5D2. I hope this will happen soon!
Inspiring
April 13, 2011
Yes, we need this. Silkypix has support for this RAW-format and is bundled with the camera, but I prefer to have all my workflow in the Adobe toolset.