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June 16, 2020
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P: Revert UI to older Camera Raw UI (12.2.1) after Interface Changes

  • June 16, 2020
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after updating photoshop , when i opened it for the first time there was option to use camera raw as it is (vertical film) or to change it to new UI (with new look and horizontal filmstrip ), i just clicked new UI to see how it looks , i thought if i dont like it i will just go back to using older UI but there is no option to select older UI , i contacted adobe but person who was helping me just suggested that i should install older version of camera raw or ask for help from this forum , i found it bit frustrating that if there was simple option to choose new UI so why not give option to revert back to older UI with newly updated software. maybe its bug or adobe forcing people to use new UI even if they dont like it

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    dgrainger
    Participating Frequently
    July 6, 2020
    Caught a picture of the bug
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    Lumigraphics
    Legend
    July 6, 2020
    Its been bugged.
    Todd Shaner
    Todd Shaner
    Legend
    July 6, 2020
    So you're saying 12.3 has moved the camera raw develop settings settings to XMP, but doesn't have the capability to "automatically" update XMP with new edits? I'm pretty sure the previous Camera Raw Database option did that automatically so this is a huge step backward....or am I missing something?
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    Lumigraphics
    Legend
    July 6, 2020
    One thing to take note of- if you have a profile that is auto-assigned to a RAW file, ACR will display the edited settings but those are NOT saved in a sidecar unless you click the three little dots on the right side and export the settings to XMP. Bridge will not show Edited in Camera RAW and your settings will not be preserved if you move the files.
    Todd Shaner
    Todd Shaner
    Legend
    July 6, 2020
    I don't do a lot of editing in ACR/Bridge so can't see if new DNG files were actually created automatically by the ACR 12.3 update. It sounds like you had Automatically Write Changes to XMP files set so you may not be able to tell either.

    Can any else here who was using the Camera Raw Database option tell us your experience concerning automatic creation of XMP files during the 12.3 update?
    TheDigitalDog
    TheDigitalDog
    Inspiring
    July 6, 2020
    So the original Camera Raw Database has been eliminated?  

    Yes it's gone:

    The option to choose Camera Raw database to save image settings is deprecated. Image settings are now stored in XMP sidecar files or within DNGs. You can view the DNG settings under File Handling in Camera Raw Preferences.

    AFAIK, that database was not the same as sidecar files by a long shot. So you must still create them for proprietary raws. 

    Correct, LR's XMP doesn't include those listed items, they live in the database (catalog); another reason to either stick with ONE catalog. 
    I often save out Virtual Copies I want as actual documents as DNGs (Lightroom Export). Now it's an actual data file, not stored in the catalog. 
    Author “Color Management for Photographers" & "Photoshop CC Color Management/pluralsight"
    Todd Shaner
    Todd Shaner
    Legend
    July 6, 2020
    So the original Camera Raw Database has been eliminated?  What happens to users who were previously using the Camera Raw Database option and not XMP data? Does the ACR 12.3 update automatically create XMP files for all images in the current Camera Raw Database? That's a scary thought especially if it doesn't!

    In Lightroom XMP does not include Virtual Copies, Stacks, Develop History, Pick Flags, Collections, saved Books, Slideshows, Web Galleries, Print Collections, Published Collections, and settings inside your Keywords. Some of these are supported in Bridge so where is that information stored?
    TheDigitalDog
    TheDigitalDog
    Inspiring
    July 6, 2020
    Adobe treats proprietary raws as read only. So you can't eliminate sidecar files unless you move to Lightroom where this can be stored in a real database (the catalog). Or you can convert to DNG which will allow everything to be stored inside the container. 
    I don't like Sidecar files either. I use DNG; everything and more is stored inside that container. Even a rendered JPEG of the current edits that could be extracted. Yes, bigger document to backup; I don't care. That takes place automatically while I sleep. 
    You want all the data in one place; DNG is the answer for raws. 
    Author “Color Management for Photographers" & "Photoshop CC Color Management/pluralsight"
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    digphotoguy
    Participant
    July 6, 2020
    I simply downloaded the older 11.4 Ver and ran it. Replaced the ACR 12.3 and then set the options as they were when I first installed. Back to normal as far as I can see. Just make sure you check your file handling options and other settings. You should be good to go.
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    digphotoguy
    Participant
    July 6, 2020
    I read the article. And yes, they do differ. But what I wanted to do was eliminate the .xmp sidecar files as I find them intrusive and clutter the folder. Having the data stored inside the .CR2 file was simple and easy. No matter where the file went. We all learn to not always improving is in a positive direction.
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