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June 16, 2020
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P: Revert UI to older Camera Raw UI (12.2.1) after Interface Changes

  • June 16, 2020
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after updating photoshop , when i opened it for the first time there was option to use camera raw as it is (vertical film) or to change it to new UI (with new look and horizontal filmstrip ), i just clicked new UI to see how it looks , i thought if i dont like it i will just go back to using older UI but there is no option to select older UI , i contacted adobe but person who was helping me just suggested that i should install older version of camera raw or ask for help from this forum , i found it bit frustrating that if there was simple option to choose new UI so why not give option to revert back to older UI with newly updated software. maybe its bug or adobe forcing people to use new UI even if they dont like it

334 replies

TheDigitalDog
Inspiring
December 31, 2022

Any body having to process large amounts of images only equals lost productivity.”

 

When you speak for everyone (”Any body”) rather than just yourself, it's impossible to take you seriously.

It will be fun to see where all these generalizations and assumptions get you when returning to this thead in another two years.

Not that one side will tell you “we told you so”. 


I love how there is always the response well you will have to just get along with it.”

 

You do not. You can roll back to whatever version you prefer. You can try to learn to use another tool. You can try to learn this existing tool. Your call. 

Author “Color Management for Photographers" & "Photoshop CC Color Management/pluralsight"
Participating Frequently
December 31, 2022

@Lumigraphics You are mistaking the facts with ad honimen attacks. I am only stating the obvious. One of the interfaces below is a UIX and the other is a GUI. One looks like you are about to buy something off the internet the other looks like you are about to edit image files.

 

It is not a matter of whether you adjusted to this or not you are just accepting the horrible methodology. Using a desktop computer with a mouse and keyboard with the UIX ACR it takes at the very least twice as much time to do the same thing with the added mousing scrolling and clicking needed to carry out the same tasks in the GUI of ACR 12.2.1.

 

Any body having to process large amounts of images only equals lost productivity. If editing time used to take 3 hours per job now it takes 6 hours. One of the major factors with the UIX ACR is how fatiguing it is to the eye you have to take a break from all the nonsense scrolling mousing and clicking whcih adds to lost productivity.

 

I love how there is always the response well you will have to just get along with it. To all the naysayers who would say no to cutting your production time in half by using a fuctinal GUI like ACR 12.2.1?

 

TheDigitalDog
Inspiring
December 31, 2022

Well, It is a fact that my previous vote on this subject had been "discounted" and that threads have been merged with the subject becoming "off topic" to many of the merged-in threads, (ie. the Crop tool!)   as well as advice that is out of date.

 

We can't help you with your voting irregularities. 

A moderator had to have merged your request, and it is up to them to do so; that's why they are moderators. I have no idea who did so; I'm not privy to this information. 

 

"However, there remain plenty of things that were easier and faster in 12.1, that could still come in time, and still lessons in that UI".

 

If you wish to find older versions of Adobe Camera Raw, they are here: 

https://helpx.adobe.com/camera-raw/kb/camera-raw-plug-in-installer.html

 

I do not believe our efforts on here have been as pointless as you continue to insist.  

 

I have not insisted on that. I have outlined the number of years this thread has gone on, the number of votes and page views, and the facts that more are needed (which is your burden, not mine, I'm fine with the current UI), and have explained, you may not get all (or any) of what you request here. 

 

Now, what constructive alternative comes next? How about rounding up more votes?

Author “Color Management for Photographers" & "Photoshop CC Color Management/pluralsight"
Ash Mills Photography
Known Participant
December 31, 2022

Well, It is a fact that my previous vote on this subject had been "discounted" and that threads have been merged with the subject becoming "off topic" to many of the merged-in threads, (ie. the Crop tool!)   as well as advice that is out of date.

 

I agree that Adobe is of course free to ignore votes, in fact it is questionable why they are there at all.

  

ACR is many times better to use than when 12.4 or whatever it was first released, and the 2 years of development to now 15.1 or whatever we are on have made many improvements and some great steps forward. 

 

However, there remain plenty of things that were easier and faster in 12.1, that could still come in time, and still lessons in that UI.   In the meantime, we keep pushing for further improvements, and I think we have ALL helped with getting where we are now.  I do not believe our efforts on here have been as pointless as you continue to insist.  

 

TheDigitalDog
Inspiring
December 31, 2022

"There are several reasons the number of upvotes and votes in general have been low is that the number does not tot up when threads are merged".

 

Sorry, but no, that isn't the case. 

Sorry, the facts remain merely 79 upvotes since June 2020.

There have been over five thousand views of this topic since then. 770 replies.

There simply isn't evidence here that Adobe should take the request seriously. 

Sorry even if there were 779 votes, Adobe doesn't have to, nor have they in the past, nor are they required to build their products by outside consensus. 

 

"Another reason is that this place to vote for change is tucked away.   Not many of the (presumably hundreds of thousands at least) users of ACR will have ever been to this "community.""

 

Then you and a few others have a lot of work in inviting them here to vote. Again, the facts are you can get a lot more votes (good luck considering the stat's thus far), but in no way does Adobe guarantee change. 

Worth repeating: Some Adobe customers hate two things: Change and the way things are. 🤔 🤔

Worth repeating: we (and I mean all of us), don't always get what we want. Now, what constructive alternative comes next? 

 

Author “Color Management for Photographers" & "Photoshop CC Color Management/pluralsight"
Ash Mills Photography
Known Participant
December 30, 2022

Why has my idea for a new crop tool for ACR been moved to this thread?  It has nothing to do with the UI. It is a feature.

Ash Mills Photography
Known Participant
December 30, 2022

There are several reasons the number of upvotes and votes in general have been low is that the number does not tot up when threads are merged.   When I returned to revisit this thread recently my vote was not on there - it was 78 when I clicked it, who knows exactly how many have been lost overall with threads moving, disappearing, marked as "solved" etc.

 

Another reason is that this place to vote for change is tucked away.   Not many of the (presumably hundreds of thousands at least) users of ACR will have ever been to this "community."

 

Acting on the detail of what we were commenting on became ever more frustrating, partly from the attitude of some, particularly those who mostly use Lightroom,  or those that don't throughput thousands of photos to clients a year, or both.  I get that the interface of ACR will never return to the slick, efficient UI it was before, and I personally have moved on to using alternative software where possible.   I'd still very much like an option to have the Legacy crop mode that Photoshop has.

TheDigitalDog
Inspiring
December 30, 2022

@Lumigraphics If you see no problem with the current ACR UIX then you must not care about productivity.

 

So the Adobe Camera Raw team and everyone who doesn't share your opinion about the current UI doesn't also care about productivity; that is your stance here? That is hardly true and hardly constructive. Again, why are there merely 79 upvotes since June 2020? There have been over five thousand views of this topic since then. 770 replies but all of them are moot expect the 79 votes, because these 79 share your opinion. I ask that you examine this idea that anyone who doesn't share your opinion with the other 78 who took the time to vote here may be fine with the UI in production. If you want Adobe and others to take your opinions seriously, consider the above concepts and facts provided. 

Author “Color Management for Photographers" & "Photoshop CC Color Management/pluralsight"
Legend
December 30, 2022

@Fred Baxter Ad hominem attacks don't help your argument. I've been using computers since the mid-1970's and have seen quite a few different interfaces. I guess I'm just able to adjust.

Realistically, I don't see Adobe going back to the old UI. So you have a choice, shake your fist or move on and learn to use the current version. Not sure what else we can offer.

Participating Frequently
December 30, 2022

@Lumigraphics If you see no problem with the current ACR UIX then you must not care about productivity. If you are working on a desktop computer with a mouse and keyboard compared to the GUI of ACR 12.1.1 the new UIX is unusable. When you switch between Tabs in ACR 12.1.1 it is a seamless transition were the eye doesn't even see it take place. The current UIX with all the scrolling drop down window triangle clicking to do the same thing within a few seconds the mind is like scrambled eggs.

 

The current UIX works well if you are a UNIX computer system. I am a human so I prefer a GUI.