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Inspiring
June 16, 2020
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P: Revert UI to older Camera Raw UI (12.2.1) after Interface Changes

  • June 16, 2020
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after updating photoshop , when i opened it for the first time there was option to use camera raw as it is (vertical film) or to change it to new UI (with new look and horizontal filmstrip ), i just clicked new UI to see how it looks , i thought if i dont like it i will just go back to using older UI but there is no option to select older UI , i contacted adobe but person who was helping me just suggested that i should install older version of camera raw or ask for help from this forum , i found it bit frustrating that if there was simple option to choose new UI so why not give option to revert back to older UI with newly updated software. maybe its bug or adobe forcing people to use new UI even if they dont like it

334 replies

alans98926879
Known Participant
June 20, 2020
Thank you for pointing out the adjustment brush issue, Robert. I just checked and have the same. Sooo many time consuming issues to overcome with this new UI but that's the straw that broke the camel's back. Decision made, I'm reverting back to previous version.
richardc29251023
Participant
June 20, 2020

I don't want to be one of those guys that start to resist change as they grow older - I am trying to go with the new interface and give it a chance, but truth is, I really don't like it.

My feeling is that Adobe overshot here and I suspect this is update is more directed at Lightroom users to make them more comfortable with Photoshop and less for Photoshop/CameraRaw users.

In general I find the interface cluttered and less tidy than before and but what really gets me is that I haven't been able to figure out how to do continuous zoom with the mouse wheel. It works in some edit modes but in others ALT+Wheel just controls the brush. Can anyone help with that?

JP Hess
Inspiring
June 20, 2020

Apparently you are not alone. Personally, I like the new interface. But apparently I'm in the extreme minority. The word is, in another thread, that a fix is in the works. So be patient. Don't know how long it will take or what the fix will be. But it's on the way. As far as your continuous zoom is concerned, I can't help you.

Known Participant
June 20, 2020

I also miss those quick reset + - click points!

Known Participant
June 20, 2020
Another annoying change (bug)- when in Camera Raw (from Bridge 10.1.10.163) and using adjustment brush with several images open, brush no longer remembers setting when I go from one image to the next, or if I toggle between Adjustment Brush and Basic settings. Previously, settings were remembered, so when dodging or burning a bunch of similar images, I didn’t have to set the same amount over and over and over again... This is a real deal breaker for me personally.

Similar issue- after adjusting the first of multiple images, if I select all, use either Option + S, or contextual menu to synchronize settings, it does not remember previously selected items properly.

And I guess I will just have to learn to look for More Image Settings all the way on the right, instead of say next in top of the Basic settings panel, where it would logically make sense to find it like before.

On the positive side, I do really like the ability to click on the small “eye” next to each panel to see before and after for just that set of adjustments. I would say Bridge is also a little quicker to launch, and slightly more responsive when opening a bunch of images into Camera Raw.

Inspiring
June 20, 2020
SANDRA, I am afraid most people in this thread has reverted back to an older Camera Raw version (me included). So they might not be able to help you.
Instead I suggest you to revert back to an earlier version of Camera Raw.
MiasPhotography
Participating Frequently
June 19, 2020
I reverted back to 12.1 today after 2 days of using the 12.3 update which seriously affected the speed of my workflow. I use Camera Raw every day as a professional photographer.

I use a 5 x 7 crop format often and in the old version the crop format stayed at 5 x 7 aspect ratio unless I used something else. With the 12.3 update the aspect ratio is always at 2 x 4 / 4 x 6 and I have to click each and every time to get 5 x 7. I want to click less to get what I want done, done.

Cropping? Having to move the image around behind the crop frame was time consuming. That UI is not effective imo.

Like Alan Shadduck above my process was like a "well oiled machine" and the new UI was like working with a clunky, sputtering machine.  

I've never felt the need to write and complain until the Camera Raw 12.3 update.


Participating Frequently
June 19, 2020
I completely agree.......whatever minor benefit was derived was wiped out by the changes in the UI itself. Working on a laptop often means that  everything is now crammed into a very small area and difficult to work with.  Some things, like vignette are in multiple places, completely unnecessary. There was no reason to not leave the targeted adjustment tool as a stand alone and it now has less useability because it can only be used in the panels in which it's included. This was a terrible disservice to the customer base especially for those of us who intentionally do not use LR. If we wanted this type of UI, we would be using  LR. This needs to be fixed so that the customer has the option of using the old UI or the new one. There was no indication that this wouldn't be an option.
alans98926879
Known Participant
June 19, 2020
Agree 100%. My former workflow was developed over many, many years of heavy use, allowing me to speed through dozens, and or hundreds of RAW images from a professional photo session. It had become like second nature, without taking any time to think about each step along the way. The process was an amazingly "well oiled machine" that has been totally destroyed. That well-developed workflow was the one thing that has always stopped me from considering other systems, such as Topaz Studio (not wanting to re-invest the time and energy to re-learn a new flow) I can only imaging how long it will take to re-develop such a skilled workflow with the new UI. I will definitely be taking another look at Topaz Studio -- since Adobe has forced me into this corner.
The Image Doc
Participating Frequently
June 19, 2020
The objective verdict after a few hours in the muddy trenches of post w/ ACR 12.3 last night, then sleeping on it.... 

Without getting into specifics, I did encounter a few noticeable improvements, or maybe I should say feature enhancements - which could have easily been implemented without any UI/UX modification.

Overall, the new UI is arguably "cleaner" than the previous interface, but "design for design's sake" has NO PLACE in the UI/UX of workflow software. Functionally the new UI is poorly conceived and very inefficient to use. 

ATTN: ACR PRODUCT MGR / TEAM...
  • Why didn't you inform AND involve boots-on-the-ground power-users with this release? 
  • Why didn't you give users an option to TRY the new interface first? 
  • Why didn't you provide a rollback option for the previous UI?
I stick by my original post statement that there is absolutely NO WAY that anyone who uses ACR on a consistent basis within a professional photography workflow would have voted for this change, or would give the 12.3 release anything more than 1 star out of 5 - and the only reason for one star is because at least 12.3 doesn't outright bomb when launched.

Final Take: The UI/UX update of Adobe's ACR 12.3 release is maddeningly inefficient, completely unwarranted, and a genuine affront to professional users.
Inspiring
June 19, 2020
Could someone help me. My PC has updated the Raw Camera to version 12.3 and I am not able to see the changes made only in the localized adjustments, for example only in the radial filter, or only in the brush separately as before. I'm only able to see the before and after of the basic adjustments and the others below where I click on the eye and the before and after with all the adjustments together by clicking on the icon that looks like a little window. How do I see this in this version? Help me please. Thanks.