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Inspiring
June 16, 2020
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P: Revert UI to older Camera Raw UI (12.2.1) after Interface Changes

  • June 16, 2020
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after updating photoshop , when i opened it for the first time there was option to use camera raw as it is (vertical film) or to change it to new UI (with new look and horizontal filmstrip ), i just clicked new UI to see how it looks , i thought if i dont like it i will just go back to using older UI but there is no option to select older UI , i contacted adobe but person who was helping me just suggested that i should install older version of camera raw or ask for help from this forum , i found it bit frustrating that if there was simple option to choose new UI so why not give option to revert back to older UI with newly updated software. maybe its bug or adobe forcing people to use new UI even if they dont like it

334 replies

Inspiring
June 18, 2020
OK for the innovation (HSL local adjustment). It is great.
But the UI adjustment take off many useful, mandatory, vital features.
I have no problem learning a new improved tool.
But when it goes backward and make things worse, (due to I don't know), that is not OK.


– The “NEW” button to start a new local adjustment (radial filter) was VERY important  (for example I want to create a new smaller adjustment under the current one). Actually, it’s not possible, you have to find a way to get out of the current edit first and only then can create a new one.
Especially in the RADIAL filter view as for example if I am working on a current one, I can’t create a new one immediately as the button is already selected. It is useful when we want to create an adjustment under the current one -which is for example covering a large area (problem mostly met in the case of the radial filter).


– The small quick + and – buttons on each slider allowed to immediately renew the settings of all sliders and at the same time creating a new adjustment. Now that it’s gone, you have first to get out of the current edit by yourself (at least in LRC there is a button "Done" but in ACR, you have to find your way out) and click the reset button before starting a new. 


– Putting those main shortcuts on the right was NOT a good idea. Sliders should be on the far right of the screen, the mouse stay there most of the time, not those shortcuts.


- Now during a radial local adjustment editing, if you have zoomed in (let’s say at 100%), there’s no way to zoom out at will without leaving first the local adjustment menu. Ability to zoom out and will is now gone.

the Ctr+Space + Clik to zoom in (and zoom in many times if needed)

and Crt+Alt+Space + Click (to zoom out many times if needed).

Now only Ctr+Space Click work as toggle zoom in or out (only 2 choices in once or out once).


If the idea was to IMPROVE the User Experience and efficiency, it was not met with this update.

Inspiring
June 18, 2020
Thank you Jeffrey for pointing out the way to revert to old version.
But another topic was merged with this one. 
The other topic explained that the new UI doesn't improve at all the user experience, nor efficiency.
That was the main point. So the take away shoud be, make this new design optional or develop an update with the older UI and withe the new HSL local adjustment in it.
(but not just the link to the old version)
Known Participant
June 18, 2020
Also, Esc no longer lets you exit camera raw window without making any changes.

Jerry Syder
Inspiring
June 18, 2020
I personally like it - I am very much up for innovation and development. I do understand that it takes time to work with something new but most times, we learn the new thing and realise that it's much better. I'd hate to get stuck in the past and the old ACR felt like it was in the past(so does LR Classic, eh-hem). The many clicks and the fact that important adjustments are embedded and I have to click further arrows to fine-tune things is a drag; namely effects, detail etc. Change is hard I admit but change can be adapted to.
Participating Frequently
June 18, 2020
Jeffrey thanks for that. It still doesn't fix the ACR incompatibility with the new Bridge. I don't know what you guys are thinking changing the ACR UI so drastically. Rule one don't fix what isn't broken. Okay allow people to have the film strip horizontally but to completely change the UI in the process is stupid. This new UI is no different than every horribly un-intuitive designed internet webpage were it is impossible to navigate logically. What appears to be happening is the iOS design unit bringing in UI design intended for smart devices not for power users. Didn't anyone test this before release? How can the user having to scroll up and down to switch between adjustment panels seem like a good idea? The old UI was completely self contained in one window now you have floating tools outside the main window and scroll bars. Seriously does that make any sense?
Participating Frequently
June 18, 2020
Jeffrey thanks for that. It still doesn't fix the ACR incompatibility with the new Bridge. I don't know what you guys are thinking changing the ACR UI so drastically. Rule one don't fix what isn't broken. Okay allow people to have the film strip horizontally but to completely change the UI in the process is stupid. This new UI is no different than every horribly un-intuitive designed internet webpage were it is impossible to navigate logically. What appears to be happening is the iOS design unit bringing in UI design intended for smart devices not for power users. Didn't anyone test this before release? How can the user having to scroll up and down to switch between adjustment panels seem like a good idea? The old UI was completely self contained in one window now you have floating tools outside the main window and scroll bars. Seriously does that make any sense?
Known Participant
June 18, 2020

Totally agree- on 27" iMac, that’s a lot of moussing to get from far left, where I chose to keep vertical filmstrip view (and with my screen propositions mean that space is not being used anyway, where as if I have filmstrip on bottom, image itself is now at least 20% smaller in raw window), and the narrow stretch of real estate where the tools are now squeezed/hidden. Still unused space on top to return them to.

Also, any reminders on my computer block some of the tools. Lastly, the logical place to look for menu type tool selections is...well, on the top, near the menu. I really don’t want to have to take time I should be working to relearn how to use the camera raw window, when the changes seem more cosmetic than functional.

I think this UI update was not well thought out, and could use some more work.

Legend
June 18, 2020
If you want to refer to 12.2.1, you can do so here: https://helpx.adobe.com/camera-raw/kb/camera-raw-plug-in-installer.html#12_x
Participating Frequently
June 18, 2020
Of course downgrading to ACR 11.4.3 totally messes up using the latest Bridge as Bridge can longer render full thumbnails using ACR 11.4.3 and ACR 11.4.3 can not be used through the lastest Bridge luckily ACR 11.4.3 opens in the latest Photoshop which again is backwards intuitive.

Adobe this is a total joke.
Participant
June 18, 2020
This is correct, and you can change these once you are in ACR 12.3 anyway, but they are both ACR 12.3, neither are the old UI layout. No option is given to use the old UI. This is why I have reverted back to a previous ACR version. Adobe has effectively taken away my tools for my job and replaced it with something that requires twice as many clicks to operate, slows down my workflow and is not usable on my 13" laptop when I'm on location because the tools are all crammed in one corner making it impossible to see on a small screen. They have tried to force lightroom layout on us, if I wanted lightroom I would use that! I don't and I won't.