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May 17, 2011
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P: Support 3D camera file formats

  • May 17, 2011
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Hi, now that 3D camera's are everywhere and JPS is the standard, is there anyway we can get Photoshop Elements Organizer to allow JPS files?A JPS file is literally a renamed JPEG file but it has 2 images side by side (so it's twice the width of a 2D version) so there's no issues with Organizer reading the file as it's basically a jpeg but I take hundreds of photos and I don't want to rename them all to jpeg because the files then don't display properly on a 3D viewing device.

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marcusw74886147
Participating Frequently
April 10, 2012
SG:
I expect PS to have set itself as one opener for these formats already uppon the upgrade. My camera only creates MPO files.

.tif does not know about 3D pairs, so CR couldn't possibly do the right thing in cropping them after such a conversion. Let alone that the conversion back and forth is way too much manual work to be actually usable as a workflow. That's more like a work stop-and-go.

Double clicking the texture layer just hides/shows that layer and thus the image.
With "edit sources" I can do a crop of one side of the images but when I want to get back to the original image, it is not obvious that it has been opened as a temporary second image in photoshop and if saving applies my chages with or without modifying the original mpo file.

Any way to do crop, rotation, whitebalance, slight corrections of exposure and denoise on usually 100-300 photos of a session before mass-exporting them for upload?
Just like I do for 2D images all the time.
Something the Bridge+Camera Raw combination is great at for 2D.
SG...
Adobe Employee
Adobe Employee
April 9, 2012
Hi Marcus and Matthew,

Bridge CS6 should thumbnail the side by side pair for .jps and .pns formats, and offer an Open With Ps CS6 option (you may need to make sure the OS has Ps set as the opener for those formats. The .mpo format thumbnails only the left side image.)

Camera Raw will not open these formats, but will open JPG. You can rename the file extension for .jps to .jpg and then open the file into Camera Raw. For the .mpo and .pns formats the workflow to get them to .tif adds a little extra work, but also affords Camera Raw editing. Once you've made CR edits and open the file into Ps, you can 'Save As' to JPEG Stereo Format again (remember that this format is lossy so you may also want to also keep a .psd file for editing).

With Ps CS6, you can do general image and color manipulation on .jps, .pns, and, .mpo files; it is localized corrections that are still not handled well for stereo pairs. Something that's throwing you off is the creation of a 3D layer for viewing the stereo pairs on open. What you need to do is either double click the 'Textures' file in the Layers panel, or look in the Properties panel for a button named 'Edit Source'. These are the original left-right pairs in the file.

I haven't found a video tutorial walking thru a workflow yet, but imagine they'll be coming out as people explore the new feature set.

regards,
steve
marcusw74886147
Participating Frequently
April 1, 2012
I tried working in SideBySide but the geometric work (rotate, crop, scale) of cause doesn't work out.
You are right that colors and noise can be done that way.
Lots of work to convert 3 times but possible. (move to Windows->MPO->SBS->move to Mac->work->move to Windows again->Anaglyph+scaled SBS for upload->move the to the mac for archiving).
marcusw74886147
Participating Frequently
April 1, 2012
PS: Kinks= I save 2 sets of settings for color-anaglyph and for side-by-side export resulting in a 1920x1080 photo with the horizontal axis and squashed to 50%.

a) Loading settings does not load all settings in the dialog
b) Getting that SideBySide working without resizing to 3800x1080 or 960x560 is very confusing.
April 1, 2012
I suppose another option is to mass convert them to side by side jpegs in the programme, then you can do what you want in bridge before batch converting them back to MPO/JPS
April 1, 2012
aligning, cropping and resizing are all very easy to do in the programme
marcusw74886147
Participating Frequently
April 1, 2012
Yes, I really like that program on Windows.
Only 2 problems:
1) I'm currently using a Mac as a second laptop for work-reasons.
It only exists for Windows.
2) It's a bit confusing but very good for mass conversion once you figured out the kinks.

But sadly I couldn't do
aligning,
crop,
resize,
adjust white-balance for a series of photos with a grey-card in the first image and
all the parts of color-correction and
remove luminance-noise (because my 3D lens is F12 and I' used to f1.4-f0.95)

So I'm looking for something with the basic functionality of Bridge+Camera Raw but for MPO files.
April 1, 2012
Marcus, there is a piece of free software that's been around a few years that can do what you're after, written by 1 guy, being improved on all the time, shame Adobe can't implement something like what this app does!

http://stereo.jpn.org/eng/stphmkr/

it can do everything you ask for to both images or individual, you can also batch convert from multiple formats (JPS & MPO included) to many many different formats including anaglyph ones
April 1, 2012
Cheers Marcus, saved me a download.
marcusw74886147
Participating Frequently
April 1, 2012
Bridge CS6 doesn't offer "Photoshop" or "Camera Raw" as "open with...".
I can only open it with the Preview -app of MacOS from within Bridge.

After your comment I opened the MPO -files in the Photoshop CS6 trial.
They open in a "3D-layer" where I can switch between Anaglyph and SideBySide.
However apart form HDR-toning I can't do anything.
No brightness/contrast,
no levels,
I am offered to crop+turn the image but for turning a) I need to input the rotation in degrees instead of marking a horizontal/vertical line b) it asks me to convert from 3D into a SmartObject. I can't convert back to 3D.
Trimming a 3D image displayed as side-by-side trims the SBS-image, not the left+the right image, so it destroys the image.

So yes, it can open them but I can't DO anything with it once I opened it.

http://marcuswolschon.blogspot.de/201...