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April 22, 2023
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P: A way to alter the naming for Enhanced filename suffixes

  • April 22, 2023
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My workflow for Adobe Denoise.

  1. Edit RAW image in Lightroom
  2. Use Denoise AI which saves and changes my file name – adds Enhanced-NR
  3. Open the DGN in Photoshop and do more edits
  4. Close DGN and it saves my default LR file type as a layered TIF.
  5. Delete the DGN and rename the tif.

Step 6 is a pain. I haven’t figured out a fast way to get rid of the extra words “Enhanced-NR” in the file name.

And if I use Lightroom to export the DGN as a TIF it flattens the layers created in Photoshop - not good.

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Participating Frequently
March 14, 2024

Wow,  Adobe has done noting about this topic approaching one year anniversary of this thread.  No progress, no moderator to keep things on topic...disappointing. 

Known Participant
March 14, 2024

@D Fosse 
LrC is automatically adding a "-1" if there are any filename conflicts. But that is not the issue here. You're picking up a minor practical and solvable issue to discuss the initial bigger question. That is: why doesn't LrC provide it's users the possibillity to rename the enhanced files whatever they want them to be in the programsettings?
That way even you can solve your filename conflict whatever way you like.

BTW: Apart from file sizes (which shouldn't be an issue nowadays) I see no reason whatsoever why one should want to convert his RAW to DNG at import. For some camera brands (e.g. Fuji RAF), LrC isn't the best choice to interpret RAW-information and you will definitely loose image quality. Against general speaking among photographers DNG ist NOT a RAW file format. If you dig deeper into the (technical & commercial) aspects of the DNG file format and it's version history, you will understand why that is not a very wise decission. But that is off-topic as well and just my opinion/advise. No to be discussed any further in this thread...

D Fosse
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Community Expert
March 14, 2024

@mschlotz 

Quite a lot of us routinely convert to dng for a number of reasons. There is a "Copy as DNG" import option in LrC for that.

Participating Frequently
March 13, 2024

Maybe Topaz and DXO have a copyright for this simple ability to control the output names, and that is why adobe will not address the error.

 

Adobe?

D Fosse
Community Expert
Community Expert
March 13, 2024

@mschlotz 

I ask again:

 

How will your system separate filename.DNG from filename.DNG when one comes from the camera and the other comes from Denoise? Have you considered that?

Participating Frequently
March 13, 2024
Last time I checked Canon Nikon and Sony bodies do not create dng files. Regardless you can adjust what the final filename in the template will be.
Participant
March 13, 2024

I mean you could literally just have a setting ot have 'enhanced-NR' be a customizable field. Maybe 3 lines of code.

Participating Frequently
March 13, 2024

There is a work around solution in LR.  After you've created the Denoise Enhanced DNG, in Library go to Rename photo (F2) and create a template that uses "Preserved Filename". I named my version NR to just DNG.  Run it and it will eliminate the 'Enhanced-NR" from the filename.  Definitely still a PITA as the workflow now becomes:  Do Denoise, then hit "E" to get back to the photo in Library mode, hit F2 & enter.  Not too bad for a single edit but not acceptaible for batch processing. 

 

Why in the heck Adobe forces this filenaming addon is beyond me. Ok so be it, but PLEASE add a switch in Denoiose so it will create a simple 'original_filename.DNG' result. OR... the ability to change the naming convention on the front side.

Participating Frequently
March 13, 2024

See previous thread post...

 I guess Adobe cannot or will not fix this issue...

D Fosse
Community Expert
Community Expert
March 13, 2024

@Picmention Matthias 

As I've said many times, removing "-enhanced" is not possible. Then you could have two very different files with the same extension and the same name, and that's not possible. So the simplest and most practical way is to add a suffix, and "enhanced" very succinctly describes what it is.

 

But it's correct that there is no way to change it if you have a better idea. There should be.

 

As for Edit in Photoshop, that can be changed to whatever you like. Under Preferences > External Editing, you can set the template to your liking. This is safer, because they will be different file types with different extensions. These can have the same name if you want.

Picmention Matthias
Inspiring
March 13, 2024

Are there any updates on this?
For many of us, it is a struggle in workflow that suffixes like "-enhanced" (from denoising) and "-edited" (from Photoshop) are appended automatically. Please give us a setting to change or remove this automatic renaming.