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April 22, 2023
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P: A way to alter the naming for Enhanced filename suffixes

  • April 22, 2023
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My workflow for Adobe Denoise.

  1. Edit RAW image in Lightroom
  2. Use Denoise AI which saves and changes my file name – adds Enhanced-NR
  3. Open the DGN in Photoshop and do more edits
  4. Close DGN and it saves my default LR file type as a layered TIF.
  5. Delete the DGN and rename the tif.

Step 6 is a pain. I haven’t figured out a fast way to get rid of the extra words “Enhanced-NR” in the file name.

And if I use Lightroom to export the DGN as a TIF it flattens the layers created in Photoshop - not good.

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Known Participant
October 8, 2023

Interesting. I wouldn't consider this any more complex than... changing a filename. Glad to be of service.

Hope this thread is useful to others. Handling filename changes appears to be a little more cryptic than it actually is. These are built off of workflow principles from early CS versions of Adobe products.

It isn't a matter of the feature not existing. Just that most people are used to modern file naming, changing, and saving workflows. If you have ever worked in a Non-Linear Editing system (NLE), dealt with dynamic links, or worked in a professional design pipeline, then this would be more natural to resolve.

Adobe could create a batch rename module that allows you to select a group of images, display the nomenclature blocks in columns like FILENAME_NAME EXT01_suffix. It should allow users to add Extensions or remove extensions individually or as a group, etc.

As we transition into the era of big data, we need an easy-to-use module dedicated to file management. This module would not only streamline workflows but also facilitate users in organizing their images effectively. By having a system that allows users to label their work systematically, it would be immensely beneficial for purposes like ML Training. The module can be an independent add-on or exist within the program.

 

DdeGannes
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Community Expert
October 7, 2023

Thanks for the info, I usually keep my workflow simple sweet so I will not waste time on changing the file name.

I use the enhanced noise reduction file as work in progress so after I have completed working with the DNG image I would do an export to tiff or jpeg depending on the use, rename in that process and then delete the enhanced DNG image from disk.

Regards, Denis: iMac 27” mid-2015, macOS 11.7.10 Big Sur; 2TB SSD, 24 GB Ram, GPU 2 GB; LrC 12.5,; Lr 6.5, PS 24.7,; ACR 15.5,; (also Laptop Win 11, ver 24H2, LrC 15.0.1, PS 27.0; ) Camera Oly OM-D E-M1.
Known Participant
October 7, 2023

I appreciate the desire for knowledge and I'm sure this will be of immediate help to someone either in the thread or in the future but you are also asking people to answer questions for you when most of this information is available via google, the manual or ChatGPT. 

The answer:

If you rename in Finder you will have to relink the images because Lightroom will register them as missing. This is old school Adobe workflow. There is also an option to rename nearby missing files when you do this. 

To resolve your initial renaming issue, now that I understand it better:

Nav to Library module at the upper right hand corner.

Select the photos you want to rename. 

Select Library from the File Menu.
Nav to Rename Photos. 
A rename module will appear. Similar to in the export module. 
You'll see the number of files you have selected in the module.
Choose edit. 
In the edit module choose the PRESET.
The default is Filename. This is where you see the unwanted "-Enhanced-" appendment to the filename. 
When you see the blue node inside of the window,  click the dropdown menu. That will allow you to toggle through several options, two of which will omit the "-Enhanced-" appendment. 
You can use the other insert options to alter the Filename however you'd like. 

Play around with it until you get the desired results. 

That should be plenty for you or anyone else to work with. 

Have fun creating!!! 🙂

DdeGannes
Community Expert
Community Expert
October 7, 2023

So if you're using a Mac and use finder to make changes to the name of the file how is that transferred to the Lightroom Catalog?

Select the files in the Library Module and use the menu Metadata > Read metadata from the file?
Just asking for the info, I am unlikely to need to change my image names.

Regards, Denis: iMac 27” mid-2015, macOS 11.7.10 Big Sur; 2TB SSD, 24 GB Ram, GPU 2 GB; LrC 12.5,; Lr 6.5, PS 24.7,; ACR 15.5,; (also Laptop Win 11, ver 24H2, LrC 15.0.1, PS 27.0; ) Camera Oly OM-D E-M1.
Known Participant
October 7, 2023

You can rename all of your files using Finder... if you're using a MAC. Don't know the path to success in Windows.
https://support.apple.com/en-gb/guide/mac-help/mchlp1144/mac

Participant
August 22, 2023

I really hope someone can help. I've tried Adobe help and 2 different people couldn't resolve this!
When I use the new AI DeNoise function it creates a new dng file but it adds 'Enhanced-NR' to the original filename. When I then export the file it keeps the new filename.
For example: if the original filename is 2323-8 after DeNoise is done the filename is 2323-8-Enhanced-NR.
I've been deleting the Enhanced-NR by renaming every file individually but it's time consuming and a massive pain in the butt when you have hundreds to do. I asked the Adobe techs about this but they didn't know how to sort it.
Has anyone else had this problem? How did you resolve it?

D Fosse
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Community Expert
August 22, 2023

The thing is, the name has to be different in some way, because the original might be a DNG and so it would overwrite the original. That cannot be allowed to happen because the denoised file is a demosaiced (RGB) file that can not be restored back to the original mosaic raw data. It's irreversible.

 

Keeping the original file name plus a suffix is a practical and safe way to do that.

 

That said, there could be a file naming option in the dialog. The problem with that is that most people would likely just delete the suffix - and not understanding the implications, get into a lot of trouble.

Participant
August 22, 2023

Yeah, I understand the need for it to be renamed but there should be options as to how to do this. There aren't. When the Denoise dialog opens it only gives you options over the amount. In my mind there should be more options regarding filenaming but there just aren't.

 

Known Participant
August 19, 2023

Thanks Rikk. 

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August 18, 2023

Thank you!

Participating Frequently
August 18, 2023

Thank you!

Rikk Flohr_Photography
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Community Manager
August 18, 2023

Have upleveled this to the team for review.

Rikk Flohr: Adobe Photography Org