P: Ability to sync Lightroom Classic keywords with the Lightroom Ecosystem

Sensei searches both AI keywords and manually added keywords. The sensei keywords are stored with the images as I understand it but they are not user accessible- i.e. you can't actually see the keywords it generates for your images. Being able to see the AI keywords has been a requested feature here but Adobe hasn't enabled that. It would be very handy to see how it categorizes (or miscategorizes) images.

Hubertus, Adobe does not want us to switch. They are simply providing multiple products to supply different audiences. Lightroom CC is meant to attract a different base of users than Classic. The fact that Classic is not being neglected or phased out is clear from the active addition of features to Classic and strong development they are doing. Most new features get added first to Classic! It is very hard to argue that Adobe is putting most of its resources at CC. That is simply belied by the very public evidence. Also despite what some people think, Adobe is not stupid. They would get their lunch eaten by several competitors if they move to CC only. The competition is quite good.
Classic and CC are simply aimed at different audiences. CC does not scale to the levels high volume shooters need because of its internet/cloud centric design and won't for quite a while. It also misses almost every essential feature needed and will so for a very very long time if you extrapolate from how slow it has come along. In the mean time, CC works perfectly fine for those people that only live in the internet sphere, never print, do not shoot large volumes, hate keywording but still like to eke some extra quality out of their (imagine mostly iPhone raw) shots and like having all images available everywhere. Classic simply doesn't work for them. For everybody else Classic will be there.

Alan (and others),

I know about the Sensei engine for finding images in CC.  For example "Waterfall" or "Fred" or "Golden Gate Bridge" but my understanding is that this is an AI search technology at the point of query and does not result in the saving or storage of any actual keywords with the image(s).  And, i infer that the Sensei search not only interprets image content (pixels), but also includes the search of keywords attached to images by the photographer (either came along from Classic when first synced or added by hand in CC). 

Do you have info that the CC Sensei technology also adds actual keywords to images based on analysis of the pixels?  If so that would be quite interesting to know.

Dan

I am very happy with LR Classic. The only reason I come back every now and then to LR CC is the fact that there is a mobile version which runs on my iPad Pro (and I would be able to travel light). I would leave LR Classic with a heavy heart (and as an unhappy costumer) and move to CC if the mobile version would at least support one of the very key functions of LR in a professional manner: organizing photos and adding keywords. But even the latest update a couple of days ago again did not address this matter. You have to add keywords to every single picture one after the other. No function to at least tag a couple of pictures to add keywords to all this pictures in one step. Just imagine after a day in the field with hundreds of photos! If Adobe really wants us to switch to CC (as regrettable as it might be) they should at least address the basic functionality for the mobile version. For the desktop version there are some alternatives around. But as of today I do not know of any usable offer from the competition.

I believe the reason for this was (and I think it was further back in this or another comment thread) that keywords on CC were AI generated (in addition to human created) and the two systems just weren't compatible with each other at a technical level.  To me it seems pretty easy to just send data back and forth, but I also know that software is very complex and both LRs are *huge* undertakings of software. 

I'd be happy with just some more improvements to Classic and a bit more guarentee it's not going away any time soon.  Course the latest updated *did* just come out and it did have new features, so maybe I'm just wanting all my wishlist items *right* now 🙂

It is much easier to understand if you accept the premise that the strategy of Adobe is to put the bulk of their effort into CC, at the expense of Classic, in order to "encourage" people to abandon Classic over time in favor of CC.  Eventually, dropping Classic from their list of supported applications. 

Adobe has not actually said this, but there are a large number of people believe that this is their strategy and will continue to believe this unless Adobe makes a statement to the contrary or we start seeing more Library Module improvements in Classic, many of which have been on the wish list for years.  One such improvement (which, if I recall correctly, Adobe Marked as "not being considered") is sync Keywords between Classic and Cloud.  There are many others as well.

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What a post. So exhaustive. Sorry mine will not help you.
Your post explains perfectly what is totally crazy with Adobe offer:
In one hand : A 10yo+ software whom development is stopped (I mean for cloud functionality)
In other hand a slow development  beta software laking so much feature (print, smart folder, offline search and so on)
Resulting in poor user try to experiment (and share in your case) some information.
Pathetic.

The only happy people are teacher how how sells formation and books to explain how to import, tag and develop photo) and explain in some obscur FB group or forum to not install Classic and CC on same computer.

Amen! 😄

Adobe is supposed to be the "Gold Standard"

Sorry to disappoint you, but you’ll find out the integration of sync options into classic is ... rather limited 😉

(And Adobe hais claimed they won’t improve it)

As a new adopter of Lightroom CC, I am stunned that my years of Lightroom Classic CC keywords will not sync properly with this new cloud/mobile platform. Adobe is supposed to be the "Gold Standard" for the industry. I don't understand how the company can disregard such a basic need.

I would disagree. Many of the new features introduced are outside of Develop. Even if you just look at Develop features, most of them are introduced first in Classic and you need to wait another release cycle for them to appear in CC. If you look at the last two releases for example, almost none of the new features apply to CC: https://helpx.adobe.com/lightroom/help/whats-new.html. Compare that to https://helpx.adobe.com/lightroom-cc/using/whats-new.html and you'll see.