P: Ability to sync Lightroom Classic keywords with the Lightroom Ecosystem

Antonine, I think you should create your own thread where you can discuss development policy to your heart's content. This one IMHO should stay on track of the single issue of keywords not synchronizing!

Antoine,
Like most users in this forum you think that answering your questions or not is only the result of a marketing (business) choice.
Did you know that it's legal obligation for big companies under the rules of the Stock Exchange market not to give misleading information to shareholders? Suppose you are woking for one such company and responsible for answering publicly to the customers: I bet you'll be severely trained about what you are allowed to say or not. It's even true for people outside Adobe which can get pieces of information under NDA (non-disclosure agreement).
There are hundreds of posts here and in other Adobe forums to confirm that it's useless to ask precisely when the ACR version for your newly bought DSLR raw version will be ready. You have to wait until it's really ready.

Now, betwen us, we do know that, as we say in French:

"Un train peut en cacher un autre"

"Inutile de jouer la mouche du coche."

"Plus un singe monte au cocotier..."

Just joking, nothing personal. In this forum it's important to add your opinion and vote for useful suggestions; more users should do it. Don't you feel that some users in this forum have a tendency to use it as their personal blog?

A roadmap is even too much to ask, so I don't excpect any change of mindset, at least as long as the cash is flowing. Is it aslo a deliberate decision NOT to tell what the plans are ("we know it better") or does it mean there is no roadmap at all (which I strongly doubt!) ?
I don't want to be of bad omen, but if/when a competitor comes out with a comparable product, many people will grab for popcorn and watch 🙂

> Is someone (Gilles in instance 🙂 ) can forward our wishes in Adobe dev' team ?

They read everything. Whether it'll change their minds of the direction they've decided to take which each app is more debatable. But they are reading.

Happy to see some really constructive criticism about tag, tag management and autotag. Sometime I'm afraid to be alone with this sort of problem or workflow

To summarize, we want a real tag management ( for exemple a special menu same as date filter but with autofill function etc) in conjunction with autotag.
To fulfill the request smart folder based on Manuel tag would be a must :)))))

We do not want just autotag and a poor tag management (No autofill, no search offline etc etc) just because we are part of another audience. 

Is someone (Gilles in instance 🙂 ) can forward our wishes in Adobe dev' team ?

@9970247, sorry, nature is so diverse - I have photos of net winged insects that look to all intents and purposes like butterflies (in German their name also alludes to that fact, they are called "Schmetterlinghaft" which translates to "butterfly like"). I wouldn't trust any AI to correctly identify that. And I have photos of butterflies that look like hornets or wasps - including the translucent wings. I don't believe that any general purpose AI (and that's what we are talking about with regard to the keywording AI in Lightroom CC) will ever be able to cope with specialist fields of expertise.

Gilles, your right! My point was not to criticise AI, on the contrary. I'm lazy and I hate manual tagging, I really love auto tags. And the more accurate the are, the better 🙂

What I ment was: how good autotag might be, manual tags will always be needed.

And youre also right, AI will certainly do a "better" job than humans. Skin cancer detection is a good (yet very specific) example 😉

Agreed Antoine, we need to keep the possibility to add tags manually - which is the case in Lr CC, even the mobile and the web versions. Only autotag is missing.
However, I wouldn't bet about identifying or not an hybrid or a butterfly on it. We are not there yet, but it will be possible one day, an probably faster than we can thought.
As an example, Google Photos is able to recognize dog breeds and using their AI through the AnyVision plugin for Lr, it was able to identify and tag a Mercedes300 SL 😉

I really don't think that this specific issue is a "mandatory" necessity

LR CC will not be a usable alternative for some of us as long as there's the requirement to upload everything via cloud/internet.

However, extending the workflow e.g. by being able to edit changes especially to meta information via cloud/mobile is a nice thing. They did it with a lot of data already and - from a technological perspective - there's no reason to omit keywording.

In addition, I concur with those people who already explained why AI cannot be a replacement for existing keywording. I regard auto-tagging the same way as LR Classic's face recognition: it's a handy thing to speed up my workflow but it needs supervision and correction (e.g. turned heads) and I will never be able to rely solely on its capabilites.

Also: I like and do use hierarchical keywords. Pity they didn't bother to add this proven feature as base system in LR CC. Again: it's not too hard to implement from a technical point of view and people who prefer flat lists are free to use them.

Autotag does not mean you can not add your own tags. I don't see why the two cold not exist in parallel. Let AI generate keywords, and us add our ours. The search function could only be better with this 🙂 (even with a toggle for the AI keywords... 'cause you never know...)

Like you said, AI could recognize an orchid but certainly not a hybrid 🙂
And when you add a butterfly on it...

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