P: Ability to sync Lightroom Classic keywords with the Lightroom Ecosystem

> Is someone (Gilles in instance 🙂 ) can forward our wishes in Adobe dev' team ?

They read everything. Whether it'll change their minds of the direction they've decided to take which each app is more debatable. But they are reading.

Happy to see some really constructive criticism about tag, tag management and autotag. Sometime I'm afraid to be alone with this sort of problem or workflow

To summarize, we want a real tag management ( for exemple a special menu same as date filter but with autofill function etc) in conjunction with autotag.
To fulfill the request smart folder based on Manuel tag would be a must :)))))

We do not want just autotag and a poor tag management (No autofill, no search offline etc etc) just because we are part of another audience. 

Is someone (Gilles in instance 🙂 ) can forward our wishes in Adobe dev' team ?

@9970247, sorry, nature is so diverse - I have photos of net winged insects that look to all intents and purposes like butterflies (in German their name also alludes to that fact, they are called "Schmetterlinghaft" which translates to "butterfly like"). I wouldn't trust any AI to correctly identify that. And I have photos of butterflies that look like hornets or wasps - including the translucent wings. I don't believe that any general purpose AI (and that's what we are talking about with regard to the keywording AI in Lightroom CC) will ever be able to cope with specialist fields of expertise.

Gilles, your right! My point was not to criticise AI, on the contrary. I'm lazy and I hate manual tagging, I really love auto tags. And the more accurate the are, the better 🙂

What I ment was: how good autotag might be, manual tags will always be needed.

And youre also right, AI will certainly do a "better" job than humans. Skin cancer detection is a good (yet very specific) example 😉

Agreed Antoine, we need to keep the possibility to add tags manually - which is the case in Lr CC, even the mobile and the web versions. Only autotag is missing.
However, I wouldn't bet about identifying or not an hybrid or a butterfly on it. We are not there yet, but it will be possible one day, an probably faster than we can thought.
As an example, Google Photos is able to recognize dog breeds and using their AI through the AnyVision plugin for Lr, it was able to identify and tag a Mercedes300 SL 😉

I really don't think that this specific issue is a "mandatory" necessity

LR CC will not be a usable alternative for some of us as long as there's the requirement to upload everything via cloud/internet.

However, extending the workflow e.g. by being able to edit changes especially to meta information via cloud/mobile is a nice thing. They did it with a lot of data already and - from a technological perspective - there's no reason to omit keywording.

In addition, I concur with those people who already explained why AI cannot be a replacement for existing keywording. I regard auto-tagging the same way as LR Classic's face recognition: it's a handy thing to speed up my workflow but it needs supervision and correction (e.g. turned heads) and I will never be able to rely solely on its capabilites.

Also: I like and do use hierarchical keywords. Pity they didn't bother to add this proven feature as base system in LR CC. Again: it's not too hard to implement from a technical point of view and people who prefer flat lists are free to use them.

Autotag does not mean you can not add your own tags. I don't see why the two cold not exist in parallel. Let AI generate keywords, and us add our ours. The search function could only be better with this 🙂 (even with a toggle for the AI keywords... 'cause you never know...)

Like you said, AI could recognize an orchid but certainly not a hybrid 🙂
And when you add a butterfly on it...

https://flic.kr/p/27sVwqC

@9970247, as I explained autotagging is a total gimmick to me. For me it's vital to be able to search for keywords and change them when being offline and they need to synchronize to my office system - and the Lightroom CC cloud infrastructure (excluding the synchronized Lightroom Classic CC smart previews) is simply not ever going to cut the mustard. I couldn't even use it to manage the images of one day - because then my mobile data cap for the month would be hit within a few days, or sometimes even a few hours.

You are right Gilles, 
I do really appreciate LR CC, this turning point is critical but mandatory
Maybe autotag will be efficient enough in some days, but I wish I can keep things in control and search offline. 

Olivier, don't get me wrong : I perfectly understand your needs and your concerns. I have no clue if this situation will change - I doubt - but I'm pretty sure that Lr CC will get autotag features one day, which will be a huge step forward. 
I think the problem we are all facing is that we are at a turning point and it is never easy.