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October 19, 2017
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P: Ability to sync Lightroom Classic keywords with the Lightroom Ecosystem

  • October 19, 2017
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Keywords do not sync correctly: When added on the mobile app (iOS), they do not appear in LR classic and not in LR Web (I deleted the new LR CC immediately, this version does not make sense to me).
Same problem into the other direction: Keywords from LR classic do not appear on the mobile app. 
Attention: At this stage the whole keywording within the iOS app should not be used!

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    Antoine HLMN
    Antoine HLMN
    Inspiring
    October 9, 2020

    This, again, proves it’s not a technical decision but rather one to piss off customers.

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    Lumigraphics
    Legend
    October 9, 2020

    I've stayed out of this because I have zero use for the online ecosystem.

    However, its disingenuous to claim that hierarchical keywords cannot be maintained by Lightroom CC et al.

    Keywords are plain text and are written into the file as "parent" + separator + "child." In other words, "Bird|Sparrow" would be a hierarchical keyword in the file.

    ALL of the interpretation is done on the client side. So the photo viewing app reads the metadata and determines that "|" is a separator.

    The easiest route would be preserve the hierarchy as it is written in the file and let each app interpret it. Lightroom CC uses a flat structure where "Bird|Sparrow" is the keyword and either ignores "Bird" or shows it. Lightroom Classic interprets it as hierarchical.

    Adobe already deals with this problem in Bridge, which can use either flat or hierarchical keywords.

    https://helpx.adobe.com/bridge/kb/nested-hierarchal-keywording-bridge.html

    Antoine HLMN
    Antoine HLMN
    Inspiring
    October 9, 2020

    Because « syncing strings is a technical difficulty », then « no further sync development will occur on classic ».

    Now you know how Adobe treats you and thanks you for your money! Come again!

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    Lewis Craik
    Participating Frequently
    October 7, 2020

    Because they do not seem to care about Lightroom CC users...

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    Anonymous
    October 7, 2020

    Why not allready giving the possibility to sync keywords between lightroom classic an lightroom mobile in a flat way?

    shawnb71499088
    shawnb71499088
    Participating Frequently
    July 12, 2020
    You are 100% correct. The lack of keywords means nothing has been solved for me. Yet. The mobile app is literally a couple of weeks old. What I’m banking on is future improvements. I could hope for the same from Lightroom, but they’ve had plenty of time to do that and have made their intentions pretty clear - no sort of merger between Classic and Cloud. Also, just to be clear, ON 360 supports tags and everything else. If you’re using two computers to look at synced files the experience is identical on both computers. It’s just the mobile app that can’t see or edit tags. I’m really hoping (and expecting) that will change in the coming months. 

    (And, yes, they're actually called "keywords" in ON1. I guess I interchange those terms without noticing.)
    Califdan2
    Califdan2
    Inspiring
    July 11, 2020
    Keep us posted as On1 moves ahead. 

    However, if your purpose of moving to On1 was that keywords don't sync between Adobe's desktop and cloud apps, and On1 doesn't allow you to add tags (which I assume are keywords) at all, I'm not sure what you've gained?
    Antoine HLMN
    Antoine HLMN
    Inspiring
    July 11, 2020
    That is, sadly, exactly what needs to happen. I’ll probably to the same when my subscription comes to an end. I’m afraid it won’t change a thing as the market of smartphone users is probably still growing, but still.
    Thanks for the feedback, I’m sure many people are interested in switching experiences.
    Cheers!
    shawnb71499088
    shawnb71499088
    Participating Frequently
    July 11, 2020
    Just pulled the trigger - Adobe is no longer getting my monthly subscription. That lack of $9.99 monthly revenue will surely bring them to their knees! Sigh, well, I can dream. Anyway, I've moved on to ON1 RAW with the 360 cloud service. The desktop software is quite nice (I'm not missing anything from Lightroom yet), but the mobile software (which JUST launched) I'll charitably call "a work in progress". You can see all of your synced photos which sync with a smaller, compressed version. The smaller files plus a minimum storage of 200Gb means I was able to comfortably sync all my photos. But that's the end of the good news for the mobile app - you can't add tags (!) and the albums (ON1's version of collections) can't be nested (as they can in the desktop software). The GOOD news as the company is clearly very active in rolling out improvements. I decided to give them my money to continue encouraging those improvements since Adobe clearly has no intention of doing so.
    Charlyw64
    Charlyw64
    Participating Frequently
    July 8, 2020
    That doesn't help you much because on all of the alternatives you lose the very functionality completely that you want Adobe to improve (it is there to begin with)... The DAM functionality in all alternatives is miles behind Adobe - thus therein lies the problem, until a serious competitor with cloud integration shows up there is no immediate incentive to improve.
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