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May 5, 2011
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P: Allow for keyboard shortcut customization

  • May 5, 2011
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Customizable keyboard shortcuts in Lightroom would be great. I just find it so confusing that crop and brush tools and things like that have such odd keyboard shortcuts in Lightroom. I understand that changing that all now would be awful for many existing users, but being able to override them like I can in Photoshop would be helpful. Doesn't anyone else out there find they use to wrong keyboard shortcuts in the wrong program?

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Risto Les
Participating Frequently
November 25, 2014
Dear all

Many thanks to you all who have helped in finding a solution this problem and that's really the only/main thing that matters to me.

However ( 🙂 ), even though I'm not saying that Adobe needs to document windows behaviour I think Adobe needs to make sure that their customers are happy and won't change from Lightroom e.g. to DXo (where to my understanding short cuts work better). I don't think they should expect Microsoft to document that in Lightroom the short cut to "Open as Photoshop layers is "ALT+PEOO" and for some reason the corresponging accelerator key is not underlined even though it is underlined in command "Open in Photoshop".

When I look back to this and many other related discussions that I found in web I can observe the following
- numerous requests about LR short cuts
- many answers like:
* "in Mac you can assign short cuts to any menu items but not in Windows"
* "there is one third party SW that can do the trick, but it costs about the same amount of money as LR itself"
* "there is one open source sw that can be used but there is no good support to it"
* "there is a script that you can use/create to assing a keyboard short cut to "open as a smart object"

Why all those work around solutions when the real answer to the problem is that YES there are short cuts to those commands and YES they can easily be assigned e.g. to Wacom tablets (but they only need to be documented somewhere).

Don't get we wrong, I'm really honestly happy that I got your support and I found the solution (I just need to use trial & error method to find the correct key strokes to my external editors, I think there are matching first letters among them...). This will make my workflow with LR, Photoshop etc SW MUCH smoother when using those short cuts with my Wacom tablet. Probably it's the fact that I have been responsible for customer support in one fairly big interational company and I think that suppliers need to feel their responsbility for keeping threir customers happy.

Once again: thank you! (I might still have a look in DXo as I was told that they have some algorithms that work better for micro contrast than "clarity" in LR/ACR)

:-)
johnrellis
Legend
November 25, 2014
Risto wrote: "I guess this also leaves me without a solution for shortcuts for commands that are opening photos in external programs other than photoshop..."

You can use the standard Windows accelerator keystrokes to invoke those commands. For example, if you have an external editor preset named "Gimp", you could invoke it by typing ALT-P E G (since G is the first letter of the submenu command "Gimp").
johnrellis
Legend
November 25, 2014
Risto, I understand your frustration. However, I don't think Adobe needs to document the standard Windows keyboard-accelerator shortcuts -- that is a standard feature of the Windows operating system, and no mainstream program I'm aware of documents them.

There are 4 Photo > Edit In commands that don't have underlines: Open As Smart Object, Open As Layers, Merge To Panorama, Merge To HDR. This is because by default, the shortcut letter is the first letter of the command, and there are two commands starting with "O" and two with "M". But as Rob Cole explained above, you can still select those commands by typing "O" or "M" one or two times and then hitting Enter. That is standard Windows behavior.

Adobe could improve the keyboard accelerators for the Edit In menu by explicitly assigning letters to these four commands. E.g. it could assign "S" to Open As Smart Object. This would cause the "S" to be underlined, and it would save you one or two extra keystrokes. I've submitted that request as a separate topic:

http://feedback.photoshop.com/photosh...
Risto Les
Participating Frequently
November 25, 2014
Hi Victoria
Thanks for your help, now I know that I have that option in Windows to display (or not) those accelerator keys.
However, this doesn't seem to completely work with Lightroom. Ironically enough, for the two example commands that I gave: open as smart object and open as layers in Photoshop my windws 8.1 pc does not show any underlined characters... I do see those for commands for which there is a documented short cut (e.g. open in photoshop), but only thanks to the kind responses I've received on this forum I know that Alt+peo is the short cut for open as a smart object.

Any additional advises?

I don't understand why Adobe has not documented ALL short cuts they have implemented in the sw.

I guess this also leaves me without a solution for shortcuts for commands that are opening photos in external programs other than photoshop...
Victoria Bampton LR Queen
Community Expert
Community Expert
November 25, 2014
BR Risto, google "windows Underline keyboard shortcuts and access keys" for more info. That'll give you the blurb on those Alt menu letters functionality for Windows. On a Mac, you can assign custom shortcuts to any menu command.
Victoria - The Lightroom Queen
Risto Les
Participating Frequently
November 25, 2014
Thanks Rob, I certainly like it, easy to assign Wacom short cut to it. The thing is that there is no way I would have fould that combinaison by trial & error before my tablet would have crashed to the wall out of frustration ... 😕😕 (why not e.g Alt p e o l?)

If in mac version those letters are underlined is there any possibility to get screen shots, otherwise I' ll be asking those short cuts separately to each menu item....

Victoria: thanks for your comment. Could you be more precise, which OS and which functionality?

Thanks for you help!
BR Risto
areohbee
Legend
November 25, 2014
Indeed, so for example "Open as Layers in Photoshop.." is:

Alt-p-e-o-o

Try it!
Risto Les
Participating Frequently
November 25, 2014
In many cases the first letters are the same, e.g. Photo > Edit > open as smart object vs open as layers...
areohbee
Legend
November 25, 2014
In Windows, if none of the characters are underlined, then it's the first character.
Victoria Bampton LR Queen
Community Expert
Community Expert
November 25, 2014
This is just standard OS menu functionality - it's not specific to Lightroom
Victoria - The Lightroom Queen