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March 26, 2023
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  • March 26, 2023
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Hi, we are a big ecommerce photography studio. We are shooting thousands of clothes on model per week.

It is a big problem of us that we have to export all the photos after first crop and then reimport and crop again.

 

Here an example of what we are dealing as time consuming in our company.

Lets say we have a photoshooting for ecommerce site and shooting clothes on 1 model.

For eccommerce sites we setup our camera locked in one place and shooting the model as full body photo. The model at this point usually wear 2 clothes. Lets say one blouse and one pant.

As explained before we are shooting full body and then we are cropping seperately the 2 clothes.

To do it we have to crop one time (as full body shot) according the height of the model and then align the model in the center.

Here comes the problem. To make a second crop adjustment to separate the two clothes , one for the blouse and one for the pant we have first to export the image in full resolution (create an image that doesn't have any crop setting) and then reimport to lightroom to make the crops for the blouse and the pant.

If we make a sync of blouse cropping or pant cropping before we export and reimport we are loosing all the other crop settings that we done before (crop for height and align in the center).

The example was for one image but as we said imagine that in one ecommerce photoshooting, we have more than 3000 photos to do it per day.

So, now we must first crop for height and align in the center, export in full resolution (maybe we have to wait until 1 hour to finish the export), reimport and then make new crops to seperate the products without loosing the height crop and the align we were do before.

I believe there are 2 ways to fix this.

1. create a button to consider the image settings (or at least the crop) as without settings and any new setting to apply above that.

2. Create a crop mask layer tool. To make new crop settings even when an image already is cropped.

 

If you can manage create this it will be life saving as we spend more than 20 hours per week to wait export images and then reimport them.


Thanks in advance

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ProductPhotography.grAuthor
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March 28, 2023

No what i mean by re-importing is that we export in full resolution and then import that we exported.

Creating virtual copies is not a solution because we are loosing the first stage of crop.

 

I will try to explain again with not just one image but with real scenario and more simple problems than we have.

After an eccommerce shooting of clothing we have lets say 1000 images.

The camera is locked in one place so all the setup is not moving. The only thing that change in the image is the position of the model in the picture. So we have 1000 images that the model is not aligned in the center at 80% of the images.

Now lets say that we need 2 folders of images.

1. Images from head to toes of the model (all the body) but aligned in the center.

2nd folder: All the images from head to knees. and aligned in the center.

Now what we are doing is. First we align to the center manually one by one image, by cropping from right or from left. Then we export all the images in full resolution. Then we import this folder back in lightroom and then with one sync to all new cropping from head to knees we are ready to export the second folder.

If we don't export after the align and will try to make a new crop from head to knees we will loose the align cropping that we did before, and that means that we will have to do again the align one by one!

Virtul copies is not working because it keeps the crop setting that we done before and if we try to sync with a new one (head to bottom) it will overide the align cropping that we done before.

 

So, If a feature comes that creates Virtual Copies but without keeping the previous settings and consider the image as a new but with the settings applied, this it could be a solution.

 

Some possible solutions for as will be:

1. Create option, to create virtual copies (but with applied the at this time settings. Now creates a virtual copy with the settings appearing not applied)

2. Cropping masking. To make one crop and create a second layer of cropping.

3. Create a button to consider all the image settings are applied. so any new edit will be on top. (this already exists for basic adjustments, exposure-temprature etc but NOT for cropping)

Did understand now?

Bob Somrak
Bob Somrak
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March 26, 2023

Instead of exporting and reimporting just create virtual copies for the blouse and pants and crop the VC's

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GoldingD
GoldingD
Legend
March 26, 2023

1. Is this a translation on your part into English from your native language?

2. Instead of re-importing, assuming that is what you meant to say, in order to have separate images for top vs bottom, consider making virtual copy's.

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