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June 1, 2016
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P: Automatic image tagging

  • June 1, 2016
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[Update: See this reply for a list of third-party plugins providing automatic image tagging: https://feedback.photoshop.com/photoshop_family/topics/automatic-image-tagging-with-google-cloud-vis... -- John Ellis]

Hi all,
who of you likes organising and tagging pictures in your image catalogue? I don't. I'd love to keep my focus on taking photos. When I read about the Google Cloud Vision API, I thought this cloud be the solution for my problem that I don't like organising, but love having things organised. Cloud Vision is a service that takes an image and returns a set of keywords, places, brancs, etc. it detected. Why not let Google do the work?
So I started learning Lua and Lightroom development to create such a Plugin by myself (hold on, it is nothing there yet).
When I started thinking about the actual plug-in, the question came up what would other Lightroom users expect it to look like? And what other features do you expect? So I forwarding these questions to you. What do you think of it? Do you think this plug-in is helpful to you? What are your expectations?

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johnrellis
Legend
March 19, 2017
Here's an updated list of products for automatic image tagging within Lightroom. If you know of others, please post them here.

Cloud Tagger uses Google Cloud Vision, and it is intended as an aid to careful keywording of smaller numbers of photos rather than searching large catalogs. It currently has no recurring charges.

MyKeyworder is intended as an aid to careful keywording of smaller numbers of photos rather than searching large catalogs.  It has recurring charges.

Lightroom Keywords is intended for careful keywording of smaller numbers of photos rather than searching large catalogs. It has per-photo charges.

Wordroom is intended for careful keywording of individual stock photos. It's currently in beta and it's not clear what it will cost in the future.

Excire lets you search your entire catalog for specific content or for similar images. It doesn't use the cloud and it has a higher one-time upfront cost with no recurring charges.

LrTag is similar to Excire, but it has a monthly charge.

RAISE is an online photo-sharing service. Free?  Not clear if its LR plugin downloads tags back to the catalog.

Any Vision uses Google Cloud Vision to automatically tag your photos with labels, landmarks, logos, face expressions, and dominant colors and extract embedded text (OCR). It has recurring charges.

Lightroom Cloud (but not LR Classic) uses similar technology, but it doesn't search your desktop catalog, just photos you've synced with Lightroom Cloud, Web, and Mobile.

[Updated to reflect the release of Project Nimbus as Lightroom CC.]

[Updated to add Wordroom and LrTag.]

[Updated to add RAISE.]
Inspiring
March 19, 2017


Keywording is a painful and cumbersome process especially in these days where many photographers have fat LR catalogs with hundred thousands of photos that are increasing every day with little or no time to pick, rate, keyword, and tag.

LR has automated face detection and geotagging features, and both are integrated nicely with keywording panel at the library module. However, many users may need to search for a specific photo based on some general concepts such as scene type (e.g. landscape, architecture), or more specific objects such as Eiffel tower.

At the moment, I'm aware of the experimental search feature which is available only at online version of LR but this is limited only for searching on synced collections without offering any option to keyword them.


I think it will be great if Adobe extends the artificial intelligence based search feature to desktop and mobile versions of LR  and adds the ability to suggest keywords and apply them into photos.
March 19, 2017


After much deliberation I chose Lightroom to be my primary photo management software over Google Photos and Apple Photos because among other things I am a photographer / videographer and love that it's keywords are ITCP level metadata (instead of some proprietary system).

But one thing I really fell in love with when testing google / apple photos was their auto keywording features.  Being able to have all "cars" "landscapes" "animals" etc automatically keyworded makes searching and adding my own keywords exponentially faster.

I found this cool plugin http://wordroom.org/ but it only keywords 1 photo at a time when you manually tell it to.

I know lightroom is in a bit of a different ballgame than google / apple photos but I'm guessing there are a lot more people like me who use Lightroom over those options but would love to see stay competitive in the auto-keywording area as well.

Thanks!
johnrellis
Legend
February 14, 2017
I've just released the Any Vision plugin, which also uses Google Cloud Vision to automatically tag your photos with labels, landmarks, logos, face expressions, and dominant colors and extract embedded text (OCR).

In addition to Any Vision, there are three other products with significantly different feature sets and pricing: Cloud Tagger, Excire, and Lightroom Web search.
Inspiring
October 24, 2016
Hello all!

I just came across this thread and thought I'd let you know I did come up with a plugin that does just that.
Lightroom CC users can grab it from https://creative.adobe.com/addons/products/16333
Sorry though, it's commercial...
KRO-KODILU
Participating Frequently
June 18, 2016
@Hendrik M Halkow, sounds amazing! Both thumbs up! I've been hoping for and looking forward for such a solution for years. That sounds like a really excellent idea! Please keep us posted of your progress. I've subscribed to this post. Have a nice day 🙂
johnrellis
Legend
June 3, 2016
"So I started learning Lua and Lightroom development to create such a Plugin by myself (hold on, it is nothing there yet)."

That sounds like an excellent idea! Please keep us apprised of your progress.

I think it's likely that over time, the Google service will be higher quality and more capable than the Adobe service -- Google has more technical resources and a bigger market to support their efforts, as well as access to orders of magnitude more training data for its machine-learning algorithms.  Just compare the quality of face recognition provided by Google and Facebook with that provided by LR (technology Adobe licensed from a third party).

The Lightroom SDK forum is a good place to ask questions about implementing plugins.  
Participant
June 1, 2016
Thank you Victoria for sharing this. I didn't know about this. looks like Adobe is working on this. What I miss is that the keywords are suggested based on the content, which is what you mentioned, too.
And of course, the integration of this feature into Lightroom: I want all of my images to be indexed by this feature (besides, I also want all of my images to be available in Lightroom Web and Mobile).

@Adobe: What are your plans about this feature? Could you please add the automatic keyword suggestion to it?
Victoria Bampton LR Queen
Community Expert
Community Expert
June 1, 2016
Have you tried the new image analysis search feature in Lightroom Web yet? It runs along similar ideas, except the keywords aren't actually visible.
Victoria - The Lightroom Queen