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April 1, 2011
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P: Better keyword management

  • April 1, 2011
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How about some better support for keyword management. It's very basic now. I would like to do the following tasks:- Delete multiple keywords at once. Not all plugins do handle hierarchy keywords well and add all the keywords to the root level. It's a tedious task to delete them one by one.- Search for duplicates.- Merge keywords. With lots of tricks, it can be done, but it's so inefficient.- Import keywords from within any level in the keyword hierarchy. Now you can only import keywords to the root level.- And for now last but most important: Real external editing of the keyword list. Moving keywords around and doing real heavy reorganization is difficult in LR. I would like to have an editing option like exporting and when reimported all changes are reflected in LR.

149 replies

Inspiring
July 14, 2016
"Merge keywords. With lots of tricks, it can be done, but it's so inefficient."
How?
Known Participant
February 22, 2016
This is a good idea. The current one by one is horribly tedious. 

-louie
Inspiring
October 16, 2015
Yes, in addition to better keywords, it is critical that the metadata remain persistent. There is a problem now that many social media sites, remove metadata from files upon ingestion. It is critical that Adobe exert their influence to preserve the metadata hard-working photographers attach and embed in their files.
Califdan2
Inspiring
September 13, 2015
The Boolean capability of LR filters is somewhat limited. Each column in the filter is AND'd with each other column and multiple selections within a column are Or'd. So you can create (Keyword = A or B) AND (camera = Canon 5d). But what you can't do is (Keyword = "Good" OR Camera = Canon 5d). To do that you must either do multiple steps (e.g., do keyword filter, save results in quick collection, then do camera selection and add those images to QC) or use a smart collection.

Smart collection allow pretty any Boolean logic but the way they implemented it - to try and make it simple for people unfamiliar with Boolean logic - is quite cumbersome to those who just want to type out a Boolean string. In Smart collections, you start by deciding if your level 1 elements are to be "ANY" or "ALL" (OR or AND) in relation to each other. then you add a row for each thing you want in your logic. Many times this is sufficient.

However if you want to mix AND and OR operations you have to nest down to level 2 or lower. Do this by holding down the ALT key (Option on MAC) and the "+" signs at the right end of the level one elements become "#" signs. Click the "#" sign and you start a new group one level lower. This new group consists of rows that can be AND'd or OR's and the result of the entire group is then applied to Level 1. So level one could be ALL (AND) of: Rating=3, Keyword=Fred, Group2. Then group 2 could be ANY (OR) of: Color label = Blue, camera=Canon 5d.

Here's a boolean representation of this: AND (Rating=3, Keyword="Fred", OR (Color=blue, Camera=5d))

Here's the same thing written in a different way: (Rating=3 AND Keyword="Fred" AND (Color=Blue OR Camera=5d))

Like I said, it's a bit complex but once you build a few it is usable. There are some features that would make it easier like being able to drag one row or group to another position rather than having to delete and re-add but at least it can get the job done.

Dan
Participating Frequently
September 13, 2015
Ah.. Yes, somehow I missed that, thanks Victoria.. however, my complaint about Boolean searches still stands!
Participating Frequently
September 13, 2015
Yes, this would also be a great feature! Tired of having to use external tools or use lots of valuable time taking care of these basic tasks.
September 13, 2015


Keywording: Provide a way to mass change keyword attributes across multiple keywords at a time. For example, highlight several Kewords using the Shift or Ctrl keys, then right click one of them and check or uncheck one or more of the checkboxes. The ones changed will be changed in all highlighted Keywords and untouched check boxes will be left alone.
Victoria Bampton LR Queen
Community Expert
Community Expert
August 27, 2015
There's no need to spam the forum Tanja - that'll just get your posts deleted. This forum DOES have an influence over which features are added - from memory, the top 3 major features were all included in the latest release. If you want to get some movement on this topic, feel free to drum up extra votes among other Lightroom users.
Victoria - The Lightroom Queen
Inspiring
August 27, 2015
there is no reason.... adobe is just laughing at people thinking this forum has any influence on decisions made.
Inspiring
August 27, 2015
add LR5 and LR6...... next to nothing happend.