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August 29, 2013
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P: Custom sort order of keywords (instead of alphabetic).

  • August 29, 2013
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Lightroom needs to stop re-ordering our keywords into an alphabetical order. People who are keywording for stock agencies and other purposes need to order their keywords most important and relevant first. Lightroom ruins this for us. I can't believe it's version 5 and Lightroom hasn't figured this out. Lightroom is single-handedly ruining our sales based on keyword searches. Thanks Adobe

123 replies

Participating Frequently
February 11, 2016
look into MYLIO software, it works with Lightroom
Inspiring
February 11, 2016

I just discovered this issue, and it's extremely frustrating. The entire purpose of hierarchical metadata structures is to create relationships between metadata. To then strip those relationships on export is to remove substantial value/usefulness, and is an absurdly bad practice from a records-management standpoint.

My use-case for Lightroom is admittedly an edge-case*: I use it to manage the photographic output of inspectors on a large-scale public works project. I have thousands (approaching tens of thousands) of photos to manage from a dozen photographers, and thousands of project-determined keywords, many of which are numerical and only meaningful in the context of a hierarchy.

I now have the task of exporting all this data to be worked with in other contexts. I've built considerable redundancy into my system at the filename/folder level, but to allow you to build hierarchical relationships and then not preserve them on export is akin to if Excel allowed you to build a spreadsheet full of formulas to manipulate your data, but only allowed you to export the formula inputs, not the outputs. The inputs have inherent value, but the relationships between them can allow you to create significant, sophisticated value.

(*You'd think there would be a bunch of software solutions for my use-case, but there really aren't. Most projects like this still manage their files by dumping them into Windows Explorer and then just changing the filenames to something descriptive and hoping for the best when you need to find something specific later on. Lightroom was still the best solution within my budget.)

STUDIO GRAND OUEST
Participant
February 5, 2016
Correct, same issue as you have apparently. We're ad and stock Photographer with the major web agencies. We had to switch to a software called Photo Mechanic to do the job.
Known Participant
February 5, 2016
funny, one of the most important agencies who has this "sort-after-priority-thing" is Fotolia. And who bought Fotolia last year? So all people who wants to upload their work to Fotolia couln't use LR for it.
Really funny.
Inspiring
January 30, 2016
Absolutely agree. This is one of the main annoyances in Lightroom. If Lightroom wouldn't have such an effective sharpening algorithm and if there weren't a few very useful plug-ins available, I'd not use it at all. I'm missing Aperture!!! Maybe I'll just use MediaPro together with several converters in the future.
Inspiring
November 3, 2015


I ́d like to know, if there are any thoughts on implying a new function to lightroom to sort the key words manually. Many stock photographers would be very very glad if they could sort the keywords given to a picture in a free order. Are you planning kind of these functions?
Participant
August 29, 2015


Lightroom is very good programe,just 1 little problem should be solve.
About the keyword, can you make it not arrange by alphabet.I want to arrange it by myself.If you can solve this problem all stock photographer over the world will appreciate it!
Participant
August 16, 2015
Why Lightroom not Improve about this problem, the programer just improve this program for customer and let them choose that they want LR to arrange the keword or not.
I think if Lightroom want to fixed this it is very easy and all stockphotographer over the world will appriciate this!
john beardsworth
Community Expert
Community Expert
April 28, 2015
It's neither impossible nor as easy as you might imagine.
john beardsworth
Community Expert
Community Expert
April 28, 2015
As far as I can see, the order in which you write keywords is not stored anywhere in LR's catalogue. That's partly because LR is a database, but also because keyword order isn't part of the IPTC standard which Adobe would factor into the design. Modifying the catalogue isn't a 2 minute job.

I've been experimenting with a plugin which does the job, but the workflow isn't ideal. Again, it's not a 2 minute job.