P: Development in Tethering capturing

I have been using Lightroom fairly heavily for the past few years and while it does many things well , Tethering is a big fail for me!
In fact, it has gotten worse they last few version, I can't even get it to see my cameras usually now.
I'm using Nikon D5, D850 and Z6's on a late Mac laptop when I tether.
When it does work it randomly disconnects and it's a real pain. I have done a few hundred shoots with LR teetered and I can't remember ONE that went all the way through without a disconnect of some sort.

On the other hand, If I run Capture One Pro, I plug it in and it just works....no failures..

The problem for me is workflow, while I think C1 does have far superior tethering and perhaps renditions, LR's web module is something I use on every job.
Workflow is shoot, rough edit, upload web gallery, clients picks, post production in PS 

I would love to do it all in LR, but right now it just isn't possible.

I'm also not a fan of the whole catalogue thing, not of much use in my business.

At second thought I think many commercial pros don't have a lot of interest in the catalogueing features of LR.

I know many people who shoot, develop, deliver and most likely never touch the images again (therefore not needing keywords, maps, books,...) Some of them could probably use collections and so on to finish the job more efficiently, but their primary concern will be the capture process, because you can't fix most things in postproduction, that you messed up on set. It's no fun with twenty people on set and your camera keeps disconnecting or you're the only photographer in town where they all have to wait 10 seconds to see the shot. Time is short, people get stressed, the mood is down, the models get nervous - no fix for that in develop module. But that's what counts if you want a second job from the same customer.

Therefore the capture process has to be tethered, fast, flawless and with liveview, extended camera controls (Canon Utilities even controls manual focus - useful, when the camera is mounted a few metres above the set for example) and some sort of wireless option like C1 pilot or any other image to tablet/phone transfer.

So I think there a basically two pretty separate customer groups:
1. needs perfect capture and develop, shoots tethered (commercial, automotive, studio,...)
2. needs many of the other cataloguing functions, shoots to card (wildlife, press, event, wedding,...)

you sure have many of the second group, but almost none of the first group. If you want to get those customers, you need to be on par with C1 for DSLR, Mirrorless and Digital backs. The develop Module is probably good enough already.

Good to hear, that you try and get there.

Hi Rikk,

Pls consider my participation as well. Currently im using Nikon D750 and Nikon D850 with Mac Book Pro 2018.

Many thanks,

Jure

Hi Rikk,
I would like to be considered for participating in the Tether pre release testing for Nikon and Mac.  Currently using Nikon D850 (Nikon D800 and D700 for backups).  Thank you!

Greetings

To all those who have participated in this thread in the past, we would like to invite you to a special test area to review, test and advise Adobe on in-process improvements to the tethered-capture process in Lightroom Classic CC.  Currently we have testing available for Mac and Windows users with Nikon Cameras.

If you are interested in participating in this Tether prerelease testing and use a Nikon camera currently supported for tethering, please reply to this new comment. You will be contacted by Adobe with further instructions. 

You can verify if your camera is supported here: https://helpx.adobe.com/lightroom/kb/tethered-camera-support.html

Thank you for your patience and enthusiasm for Lightroom Classic CC.

Hi

mostly the same concerns as Stephens original first post - though maybe in a different order.  I also work as an assistent on commercial sets, and usually there are five to ten poeple looking at the screen while the photographer is shooting tethered with C1. Almost noone shoots to card. The image is there immediately even with large digital backs. And Focus check is possible right away. Only then make-up, set dresser, creative director and photographer can make the necessary adjustments (and at that point nobody cares about keywords or the book module). When shooting with LR it takes a wihle for the image to load as a regular preview, but it takes a long while for the 100% to render, while everyone is waiting.
I've seen someone shooting with a Sony at 10FPS (RAW of course) into C1 and there weren't any problems.

For my own work I use LR and find the integration of catalogue and developement hard to beat, but tethering with a client on set is a pain. Though at least it's now stable with my Canons.

Plus lets say the costs of production for a commercial day is somewhere around 15000 for ten hours. That's an extra cost of 750, if you take half an hour longer compared to C1, because of instability and waiting.

Maybe one of your Head Product developers should try and visit a commercial photographer on set and see what it looks like to shoot with C1 and why speed and stabiity matters most on such a set. I think such a real life experience would really help the program, which seems to be very oriented towards an office/postproduction workflow. Or hire Stephen to help you, he clearly knows, what he's talking about and has experience with LR and C1. That would be well invested money for Adobe.

I find it frustrating that Nikon users (at least for the Nikon D850) are unable to shoot tethered and have images save to both memory card AND to the computer hard drive.  No option to save to memory card that I can find.  Also, when the program inevitably (and often) drops the connection the numbering system starts over again from 001 but adds a -2.  I have to manually go in an type in a new start number when the connection is reestablished.  Very time consuming.  If I am wrong about either of these things I would love to be corrected with the workaround.

Tethering improvements were released for Canon in today's update. Please give them a try. We are working on Nikon for an upcoming release. 

Greetings

To all those who have participated in this thread we would like to invite you to a special test area to review, test and advise Adobe on in-process improvements to the tethered-capture process in Lightroom Classic CC.  We now have testing available for Windows users with Canon Cameras. We plan to add other cameras to the mix in the future. 

If you are interested in participating in this Tether prerelease testing and are a Windows user with a Canon camera currently supported for tethering, please reply to this comment. You will be contacted by Adobe with further instructions. 

Thank you for your patience and enthusiasm for Lightroom Classic CC. 

Hi Rikk

Great news bravo! Unfortunately im Nikon user please update us on this chat when nikon users will be able to test this future.

Best reagrds

Jure