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October 5, 2011
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P: Export images at multiple resolutions in one go

  • October 5, 2011
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I have discovered through experimentation that photos published to Facebook look best at 2048 pixels on the longest side (the maximum it supports) but images measuring 960 pixels on the longest side come a very close second so that's what I export at when Facebook.

I also publish the images on my own website, which uses SmugMug as a backend and is capable of automatically displaying delivering higher resolution photos (than Facebook) to the browser depending on the viewport size, so I export at 1400px resolution to strike a balance between filesize and image quality.

My problem is that it's not currently possible to export these two sets of images at the same time, I have to do them one after each other (because doing them in parallel is MORE than twice as slow due to LR's poor parallelisation of task execution), manually switching between different export resolutions and folders.

Instead, I would like to be able to pick two (or more) resolutions to export at, set (sticky) subfolder names for them (so that they end up in separate folders within the base export folder), and set LR to export all the images in one go. This would save me a huge amount of manual faffing around every time I export, and because LR would only have to fully render each image once (instead of twice as at present) it would dramatically reduce the total time taken to export both sets of images.

I realise that it should be possible to write a plugin to achieve this (and I'm looking into it) but surely exporting a set of images multiple times at varying resolutions is a fairly common use case (e.g. web/client DVD res and print ordering res for wedding photos) and it would therefore be of benefit to a significant proportion of the LR user base to make it worthwhile Adobe implementing it as a native feature?

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Inspiring
July 7, 2019
Agree 100% that resources are limited as always anywhere. That’s not the point.
It would be silly to demand that they do it tomorrow. Why would it be silly? Because I'm fully aware of how software teams work, having spent enough time with big teams.

Since we are talking about software, let's also talk about the repeated sacrifice of performance & stability for bells and whistles. Performance has been sliding downhill since the LR CC 6 version came out and people have been crying themselves hoarse on these boards, and then they get shut out by others saying there's no problem.

I have been in many many support conversations with Adobe support techs asking them what system would finally make their software happy enough, and the response was pretty much "well, we don't know, and probably nothing will do" because all they could give is a spec on which it could "run" but not necessarily run well. What does "run well" mean? It means 15 local effects should not drag a system with 32GB RAM and SSD down to the drain. But the philosophy on these forums is, if it works for one user, then all the 100 others who are complaining are doing something wrong. Sorry, that's not how "Voice of Customer" works. If 99 people have problems, you fix the software so that those 99 people are able to do their work productively instead of telling them, "hey look, that one person doesn't have a problem, so you are doing something wrong". 
Further to the theme of software management, this thread was started 8 years ago. Multiple people have offered suggestions about how it can be resolved in a simple manner. 

Software teams alternate between "big bang" and low hanging fruit, depending on the demands of the customers. This is a low hanging fruit.

Saying that it has "just 42 votes" is merely a way to brush it away. The last I checked, there's a ticket with 1138 votes, 8 pages of replies, started 8 years ago as well, and still, nothing from Adobe beyond one reply pointing out a flimsy reason to not do it. 

There's another with 400 votes. No word there too. So the "just 42 votes" argument is pointless. 

Are these examples of good software management, are these examples of incorporating the "Voice of Customer"? Certainly not. Adobe is merely blowing a raspberry at users. 

What’s required on this and similar tickets is an acknowledgement that “yes, we will at some point accommodate this, we will add it to our pipeline”. That would suffice. 

While there’s nothing of that nature from Adobe, some folks outside Adobe keep jumping in on these requests to snuffle them out by saying they aren’t useful or relevant. It’s that culture that I’m unhappy about. Believe me, this is not something I love to do, but I'm driven to point this out because it is suffocating to interact like this. As a software customer, I have the right to complain, and also vent out, if complaints and requests from all customers get ignored repeatedly, over support calls and these forums. 

Known Participant
July 6, 2019
I decided to step in on this. I’ve worked for Silicon Valley software companies for over 30 years. No version of any software will completely satisfy 100% of the customers. Development resources are allocated on based on a set of parameters - most requested (could be a mix of influencers, reviews, etc), features needed to match or beat the competition, customer surveys. For each new feature, the engineering tea, will calculate the resources needed. It should be no surprise that a feature might be #2 on the priority list based on customer input, but if it’s going to take 10 programmer years of effort, it will likely slide down the priority list

Bottom line there are a lot of things I would like added/improved in Lightroom, but bottom line if you look at Lightroom 7 years ago vs. today, it is vastly improved. My need to drop into photoshop to do things lessens with each release

Bottom line, I’m sorry, but no version of any software will ever make you 100% happy. At anytime you are always able to switch to a better, faster product that meets more of your needs. Complaining on boards about Adobe not responding to every feature you want is simply not going to change the process every software company uses
Inspiring
July 6, 2019
I agree with what you said, and how you said it.

My ire was directed at Adobe and the select set of people who kept responding to threads and insisting that there’s nothing wrong with Adobe products, and insist that it’s not an important request after all. I have no clue why John B felt the need to respond to that. Unless, he misread it, or maybe he felt that description applied to him.

Let’s take stock of all other responses other than my frustrated venting out - everyone has been cooperative, polite and even pleading, and where’s that gotten us? It’s been brushed away, and labelled as an insignificant request.

So it’s a lose-lose deal: be polite and you get brushed away or told that the problem is not with Adobe, it’s your system and workflow; or, vent out a frustration after too many such instances and then be schooled about being polite and making friends.
Participating Frequently
July 6, 2019
In my opinion it is not very constructive and i’m affraid that it will not bring you anywhere. To get something done sometimes a friendly approach does a better job.
Inspiring
July 6, 2019
The facts are: it was Job Beardsworth who attacked me, not the other way round. I heartily respect any response from anyone which helps the community. 
I cannot and won't respect a response which is focused on belittling a requirement that is expressed. 
Again, John B had no reason to comment on this thread. 
I said what I said because that's how i've been seeing it unravel on these forums, and keeps happening even now. 
Participating Frequently
July 6, 2019
John Beardsworth is contributing and helping other customers of adobe for a very long time, i think he deserves more respect than this. You come around and ranting like it is twitter here. why don't you respect normal decency standards?
Inspiring
July 6, 2019
And yet, there are trolls on this forum who say that this isn’t important. Trolls who think that it is fine for paying clients to waste their time fiddling with various plugins and hacks to get something simple like this working. While Adobe sits on the sides and watches the fun.
Inspiring
July 6, 2019
John B,

You are not from Adobe and you have no reason nor excuse to be trolling me on their behalf. 

As I said, you are a non entity in this discussion.. and stop twisting my words. I was referring to the small - minuscule - fraction of acrimonious gaslighters who spend time trolling users who criticise Adobe. And it was after seeing them in action in numerous threads and posts on this forum.

You have proven yourself to be a typical Adobe Justifier, that I mentioned above. First you likened the request to something nonsensical. Then you said it isn't important enough. It is.  Then you tried to twist my words by claiming I was insulting all users. I wasn't. In fact I was simply stating the obvious that sooner or later someone will step in to attack the critics of Adobe, and lo and behold, you stepped in. After that you've been at it hammer and tongs, trying to attack me in all ways possible as I criticized Adobe and such defenders of Adobe. 

It is people like you who are unable to accept that other users may have a legitimate request or criticism, but have just given up trying to get something done by Adobe. Folks like you are busy gaslighting those who have something legitimate to ask from Adobe. You are focused on demeaning Adobe clients, and insisting to them that their needs are baseless. 

Your posts prove that there exist such Adobesplainers and Adobe Justifiers who have no role in the company itself but take on the job of trolling those who criticise Adobe. 

You’ve been attacking my so-called attitude but it’s your demeanour that needs your introspection.
Adobe and I both don’t need your intervention here.
john beardsworth
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Community Expert
July 6, 2019
Not furthered your point in the least. You've come with an attitude about your fellow customers and you can't accept that others might not care as much about your pet feature as you do. So spare us the paranoia, John E wasn't "Adobesplaining", and Adobe doesn't have a Justifier Team, just people who might have a better perspective than some anonymous keyboard warrior.
Inspiring
July 6, 2019
Thanks again for furthering my point that.. Adobe just doesn’t care about fixing anything despite so many paying customers . When there are so many issues to complain about, people will complain about the most painful thing, that doesn’t mean that the other stuff doesn’t matter.

When you are naked and hungry and thirsty, you will ask for food and water, doesn’t mean that you like being naked. It’s like that.

Change your perspective please, you will be surprised at what you missed in this discussion.

And more importantly I’m upset at Adobe and Adobe’s Justifier team. Are you either of those?
If not, then you are a non entity in this discussion.