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baconga88
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December 16, 2015
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P: Import renaming Sequence # should be assigned by the order shown in the Import window

  • December 16, 2015
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RAW images are not importing in the correct order in Lightroom CC. I use Lightroom to process images of digitized library material, and it is critical that the images are imported in the correct order so the pages remain in the correct order in the final group of images. I selected the sort by file name option during import, but it didn't seem to have any effect. The images are still being imported in a random order. I use the general file naming convention of "Itemname-Sequence#", so the file names typically are "Itemname-001, Itemname-002" etc. which would imply that if they are sorted by file name correctly during import, they should be imported in the correct order. This issue needs to be addressed, as it has a profoundly negative impact on my workflow.

21 replies

addieleman
Known Participant
April 13, 2017
Lightroom CC's new release 2015.10 doesn't solve this issue, the sort order in the import dialogue isn't respected when renaming on import.

I use Lightroom on an iMac with macOS Sierra 10.12.4.
Sunil_Bhaskaran
Inspiring
March 10, 2017
Zoran,
In the Import window, there is a Sort option provided at the bottom-left. Did you try that?

Jim,
I have sent you an offline message to get some additional info.

Thanks,
Sunil
Inspiring
February 10, 2017
FYI - You can also change the sort order from the toolbar that's at the bottom of the screen in the Library module.

Inspiring
February 10, 2017
I clicked  on View --> Sort --> File Name in the menus as suggested and it worked like a dream! I'm a raw LR newbie, not hugely proficient with computers, and it would never have occurred to me to do that, so, a big thank you! 
ZoranM
Participant
December 16, 2016


Since upgrading my LR to LR CC 2015, whenever import images from an SD card, the images/thumbnails on the import dialogue are all jumbled up. In LR 5 the images on the import dialogue were shown in filename (or date) order - the order I shot the images in. But now in LR CC 2015 it's all jumbled up.I find this very annoying for a few reasons, most importantly I get worried that images I know I took don't seem to be there. Why would this have changed in LR CC? It wasn't broken in LR 5 and all previous version. I don't see any setting in Preferences for this dialogue.My details are below:Lightroom version: CC 2015.0.1 [ 1018573 ]License: Creative CloudOperating system: Mac OS 10Version: 10.10 [3]
Participating Frequently
December 15, 2016
I am sorry to see that the problem continues as of LR 2015.8.

An import of dozens of files (sorted by camera file name or by capture time in import dialog) still leads to files being renumbered according to "added order". Since multiple threads seem to be processed at once, capture time has no relationship to the filename or the capture time. So the sequence numbers assigned are essentially random compared to the originals. This remains unacceptable.

Some posts have suggested that it is a minor extra step to import without renumbering, and then remember to reset the sort order from totally useless "added order" to "capture time", and then use your naming template and resequencing on the imported images. Well it is not minor, because it is 1) prone to error with the additional step; 2) messes up the workflow which is a primary feature of Lightroom; and 3) one has to manually keep track of the catalog numbering (the import sequence number), which has led me to duplications and missing numbers.

Jim
GilmourB
Inspiring
February 6, 2016
On my Windows 10 desktop PC I've noticed recently that the sort on import default has been changed to random.  I can't figure out why Adobe thinks a random import is useful. Even within the same work session LR kept resetting the import sort to random. 

Today I had three shoots to import and LR kept grabbing random images from all three shoots. Even after I set the sort order to capture time it would revert to random sort. It took 3 import tries before LR did sorted in Capture Time order. 

I hope Adobe gets this fixed ASAP. Because this really screws up our workflow and has the potential for the wrong photos to end up in the wrong hands, to violate copyright and contract obligation, etc. 
Corporate photographer based in Calgary, Canada and Oviedo, Spain. Making portraits, architectural, industrial and advertising photography for national and global brands.
baconga88
baconga88Author
Participant
December 17, 2015
And just to answer your questions, I'm running Lightroom version CC 2015.2.1 on a Windows machine, and I'm not renaming on import.
baconga88
baconga88Author
Participant
December 17, 2015
Tom,

You've provided a very simple solution that I was previously unaware of. I did not know that you could sort the files in the Library module after they are imported. This effectively solves my issue. Thanks!!!
johnrellis
Legend
December 16, 2015
As you've discovered, the "Sequence #" renaming token doesn't correspond to the order of the files as shown in the Finder/Explorer or in the Import window. Lots of people have complained about this since CC 2015 came out. However, my guess is that it's unlikely this will be fixed any time soon.

It sounds like sorting your files by filename (before import) yields the desired ("correct") order. While waiting for Adobe to fix this issue (if it ever does), you have some options to get your work done:

- Use the "Filename" renaming token to import the files using the current filename. After import, click on the source Previous Import, and make sure Sort: File Name is selected in the toolbar at the bottom. Select all the pics and do Library > Rename Photo, using the renaming preset "item name-Sequence #". Not as convenient as doing it all in one step at import, but these extra steps will take about 20 extra seconds per import.

- If the filenames include a trailing number sequence, e.g. IMG_015.NEF, IMG_016.NEF, etc. then you can use the import renaming preset "item name-Filename number suffix", which will use the item name appended by the number that exists in the original filename. This ensures that the renamed files will still sort in the original order.