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October 27, 2021
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P:(Masking) Add auto update recompute to subject /sky masking after copy/paste

  • October 27, 2021
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Love the auto subject detection in the new lightroom classic update.

 

Idea: add an auto recompute feature to the subject masking when working with multiple images.

 

Observation: I'm a wedding photographer. When working with multiple images and auto sync is turned on, all of my edits to one image are synced across all selected images. When working with the auto mask subject selection, LRC basically creates a mask "preset" for the visible image but won't apply that "preset" to all other images until you manually select the  "recompute subject" button on the mask pannel. 

 

Why not have LRC do this automatically across all selected images? Seems like a nice improvement.

139 replies

JPillow83
Participant
November 3, 2021

Yes the option to autorecompute the masks will take this awesome new feature to the next level! Super stoked with how well this works so far!

Known Participant
November 2, 2021

Request: Please enable an option to update/cancel the AI elements of a mask when pasting settings. 

Issue:

When batch editing similar photos I can:

  1. Select the first photo in the set
  2. Apply an AI Select Subject mask
  3. Duplicate/invert that mask to select the background
  4. Apply my edits to each mask
  5. Copy settings and include the Masking option to ensure the masks are included.
  6.  Sync/Paste the settings across multiple photos. 

 

The masks are applied (with confirmation to overwrite, merge, etc). The problem I now have is that each synchronized mask is now in a state that cannot be used without further attention. Each mask must be opened, AI element must then be selected, and the option chosen to "Update" to recompute the mask. You can imaging more complicated AI masks and each requiring updating (like sky, subject, ground, graduated filter with an intersection of select sky to remove, select sky with intersection select subject to ensure the subject is knocked out of the sky, etc.) Manually updating all the mask elements manually really slows down the speed gains by Lightroom bulk editing.

 

Batch edits like copy/paste or Sync should be able to be used in a batch mode. Paste/Sync settings should allow (with confirmation) the option to recalculate all the AI elements in the background. When editing hundreds of photos this is a huge time saver--auto-update all the mask elements and then come back to review after the photo masks are finished updating. It would be great if this were a Lightroom task, like merging a panoramic, or computing an HDR, that could be cancelled in the UI.

Participant
November 2, 2021

The new masking methode in Lightroom Classic works great on single images. However I’m a product photographer who shoot product in 360 degrees. This means I often have to edit 36 - 72 of even 144 images of the same object at once. The Subject detection is a great option, but it would be greater if I can (force) sync this on multiple images. I now can sync all edits but have to click the ‘Subject needs to be recomputed update’ on every single image. This takes way too much time. 

 

Is there a workaround?

 

Thanks in advance. 

Participant
November 2, 2021

Folgendes Problem:

Klassische Produktbilder (Mensch mit Klamotten) mit klarem abgetrennten Hintergrund (einfarbig) kann perfekt als Motiv erkannt werden. Ich nutze die umgekehrte Variante um den Hintergrund aufzuhellen und habe eine Maske angelegt.

 

Wenn ich diese nun synchronisiere auf die weiteren Bilder, berechnet LR nicht automatisch das Motiv (bzw. die Umkehrung), ich muss jedes einzelne mit "Motiv 1" muss neu berechnet werden, anklicken.

Gibt es eine Umgehung, dass dies automatisch geschieht, damit ich nicht 1000 Bilder durchklicken muss?

 

Ich wäre über Hilfe sehr dankbar, denn das ist wirklich Zeitintensiv.

Grüße

Sina

Participant
November 2, 2021

With the new Lightroom 11.0, when I copy the settings of one photo with a subject mask and then paste those settings to a new photo, the subject mask then has a button that says "Subject 1 needs to be recomputed" and then you have a button to update the subject mask. It would be super amazing if there was some way of implementing an auto update of the subject mask. As it stands, I have to reopen the subject mask to apply the update to every photo that I paste the copied settings to. When photos are someone similar but people move around, the AI is still really good when you just click the update button. It still works great. So I don't see any reason why the mask can be auto updated so we don't have to go back into the mask panel to update it.

Rikk Flohr_Photography
Community Manager
October 30, 2021

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Rikk Flohr: Adobe Photography Org
Participant
October 30, 2021
Hello photography hive mind! I'm messing about with the new mask selection features in Lightroom, which so far are looking pretty snazzy. I can see that if you copy an AI generated mask (i.e. subject or sky or deviations thereof) between photos. When you do, it tells you that you need to recalculate the mask for each target photo, which makes sense. What I'd like to know is, is it possible to update the AI masks in a group of photos simultaneously? Or must I click through each mask in each photo and hit the update button?
 
Example for context: I'm working on group shots from a very overcast wedding. I shot using the available natural light. There is very little separation between the background and the subject in terms of brightness. I am making a mask for the subject, adding a little contrast, sharpness. The inverting the selection and removing about half a stop exposure from the background. I'd love to be able to copy this to a bunch of photos and have it resolve automatically.
Participating Frequently
October 30, 2021

I completely agree.  Even if its not automatic, I would like a way to select a group of photos and tell it to recompute the masks.   Right now, there are way to many mouse clicks to update each photo.   I photograph high school seniors, and I could save so much time with this little tweak.  Otherwise, this masking thing is a game changer, seriously.

Participant
October 27, 2021

Someone HELP PLEASE! I shot a 100+ photos time lapse and did the adjustments to the mask on the first photo.  Then I tried to synchornize the changes to all other 100+ photos.  The global synchronizations worked, but now the other 99+ photos each say that the AI needs to redraw / reload a new mask.  So now I have to go into each individual synchronized photo and manually update 2 different masks (sky and ground). THIS IS PAINFUL!!! PLEASE HELP - WHAT DO I DO BESIDES WAISTING LOTS OF TIME.  At least let me bring back the old Graduated filter???

JohanElzenga
Community Expert
Community Expert
October 27, 2021

Infortunately you do indeed have to update A.I. masks one by one yourself. The old graduated filter is still there however. It is now called Linear Gradient, but that is the only thing that changed.

 

-- Johan W. Elzenga
jaroslawl33494616
Participant
November 11, 2021

That's so annoying, I have a timelapse of stonehenge, so obviously the subject is not moving by an inch, only the sky is. Select sky worked fantastic, fidning it's way in between the stones, saving me a lot of time doing it manually. But I can't sync the masks because they are AI-powered. Is there no way to change AI-powered mask into a regular mask? This would be a cool workaround.