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vitos62906937
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November 16, 2021
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P:(Masking) Make the mask available in Photoshop?

  • November 16, 2021
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The AI for masking is brilliant. What would be nicer is if when I send an image to edit in Photoshop, it sends the mask too. After all, it's already created.

 

Alternatley, If I open an image in Photoshop's ACR, and I create a mask, why can't it open with the mask as a layer. It seems, again, since the mask is already created, it should be no problem, barely an inconvience.

 

Thank you for your consideration,

Vito S.

39 replies

Participating Frequently
December 4, 2021

I often need the masks that I created in Lightroom when I edit the same photo in Photoshop. Ideally I could also create named masks in a PSD file and when daverd back to Lightroom I can use tthe masks as well. This feature , obviously would not be available with JPEGs but could be a a part of the PSD format. 

Rob_Cullen
Community Expert
Community Expert
December 2, 2021

This is not what you are asking, but just my thoughts- why do you not do the masking in Photoshop, if you know you want 'masking'.?

It has the same 'Select Subject / sky' functions, and you can brush on masks to add-to or erase masks in adjustment layers.

Also Luminosity masks can be very useful as is Luminance masking in LrC.

 

 

Regards. My System: Windows-11, Lightroom-Classic 15.1.1, Photoshop 27.3.1, ACR 18.1.1, Lightroom 9.0, Lr-iOS 10.4.0, Bridge 16.0.2 .
Participating Frequently
December 2, 2021

ok, but ACR is basically the same thing as LRC, I'd like to open the selection in PS because I need to do things I can't do in LRC. Being able to use the masked area as a selection in PS would be very helpful. 

johnrellis
Legend
December 2, 2021

There's a roundabout way of converting a LR mask to a PS mask:

 

1. In PS, make a white TIFF the same pixel dimensions as the photo, and import that TIFF into LR.

 

2. Use the Copy Settings plugin to copy the mask from the photo to the white TIFF, using the option Original Sky And Subject Masks.

 

3. In the TIFF, select the mask and set the mask's Exposure = -4.

 

4. Use the Tone Curve to adjust the black point so the mask is mostly black:

 

5. Edit the photo and TIFF in PS, and copy/paste the TIFF into the layer mask of the desired layer of the photo.

 

That's a lot of steps, which could be mostly automated in the Copy Settings plugin. But Rob_Cullen's suggestion seems more useful.

 

 

Rob_Cullen
Community Expert
Community Expert
December 2, 2021

Not possible  as a mask on a 'standard' layer, but-

From Lr-Classic: Open in Photoshop as a Smart Object.

The Masking remains available in Photoshop (the CR UI)  if you [Double-click] the Smart Object badge on the Layer which re-opens the image in ACR- with the Masking.

 

 

 

Regards. My System: Windows-11, Lightroom-Classic 15.1.1, Photoshop 27.3.1, ACR 18.1.1, Lightroom 9.0, Lr-iOS 10.4.0, Bridge 16.0.2 .
Participating Frequently
December 1, 2021

Is there any way to convert an image mask created in LRC into a selection of that area for use in PS ??

It would be nice not to have to make the selection again in PS if you already have the area masked off in LRC. 

Ian Lyons
Community Expert
Community Expert
December 1, 2021

Unfortunately, not something that we can do at this time, but others have requested it.

vitos62906937
Participant
November 30, 2021

The new Subject/Sky masing in CR is MUCH better than the Photoshop internal versions. Plus, I can make masks in LR, make adjustments there (because it's much easier), then do any PS work with the mask already made, coming in from LR with LR edits.

 

As to below msg, sorry, I thought I put this in Ideas.

johnrellis
Legend
November 29, 2021

Can you give a more detailed example of why you'd like to access the Sky and Subject mask as separate layers when you open in Photoshop?  The better Adobe understands why you want a feature and how you might use it rather than just what you want, the more likely they'll consider it.

 

(And you do know that Photoshop has Select > Subject and Select > Sky?)

johnrellis
Legend
November 29, 2021

Moderators, @Rikk Flohr: Photography, please move into Ideas.

Participant
November 16, 2021

I am currently working on a photogrammetry project and need to mask 750+ photos. I saw a demonstration of the "Select Subject" masking available in Adobe Lightroom and was very impressed. Question is, can one export the mask?

 

In addition, I'm hoping to automate this process as much as possible. Is scripting available with Adobe Lightroom? Or will I have to make my own plug-in to achieve such a thing?

 

I'm hoping to:

- load in images

- apply "Select Subject" to images

- export masks for images

GoldingD
Legend
November 16, 2021

From another members issue, where the member applied a AI mask ( select sky in that case) from one photo to many photos, the member found that in each photo the mask had to be recomputed.

 

So, apparently not.

 

https://community.adobe.com/t5/lightroom-classic-discussions/subject-sky-masks-need-to-be-updated-whenever-i-reopen-a-project/td-p/12524134

 

 

Participant
November 16, 2021

Fantastic, thanks for the lead.

 

I'm suspecting that I might have to get familiar with the automation side of Adobe Lightroom and "hack" my way to export a mask. I've found a suitable pipeline:

  • Import image
  • Create mask one with select subject
  • Duplicate mask one to create mask two
  • Invert mask two to mask the background
  • Mask one (object) - over expose until completely white
  • Mask two (background) - under expose until completely black
  • Export the image -> convert to suitable basic black white image

 

The resulting black and white pattern can be used in photogrammetry and would make a lot of people very happy! Now I need to figure out how to automate such a process with Adobe Lightroom.