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April 26, 2011
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P: Please add face recognition to Lightroom (ability to specify region metadata)

  • April 26, 2011
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Do you plan to implement a face recognition defined by keywords in Lightroom someday ?

121 replies

August 10, 2011
add feature Face Detection with easy way to zoom, magnifying glass.
to test for large photo facial expressions
Participating Frequently
August 2, 2011
And not just Macs and PCs. What if Picasa and YouTube have auto keywording assistance and LR doesn't?

Will more LR users begin uploading their photos to a cloud for post processing that LR doesn't provide?
Participating Frequently
July 24, 2011
Google just acquired a facial recognition software company named Pittsburgh Pattern Recognition. See

http://blogs.wsj.com/digits/2011/07/2...

So Apple has it, and it looks like Google will be using it. It sure would be easier to keyword photos with face recognition, assuming it worked well. Instead of viewing it as a gimmick for the masses, as opposed to serious photographers, try viewing it as a workflow automation improvement that will become a requirement over time.

Fast forward a few years. Imagine LR creates an XML file, or mini DB of attributes attached to each photo, derived from things like image processing, GPS coordinates and date/time. Potential keywords could be presented for easy selection like: Dad, Julie, John Warnock, Christmas, Wedding, River, Mountains, Horse, Fog, Dawn, Yosemite, Motorcycle, Woman, Rain, Tornado, Fire, Red, Fruit ... You get the idea.

This kind of stuff will be prevalent for still and video captures in a few years, by all the computer-based applications (desktop and laptop and maybe tablet).

So Adobe - lead or follow?

Dan
Participating Frequently
July 13, 2011
add into the product facial recognition

Participating Frequently
July 13, 2011
Picassa's face recognition works really well..

I would hope though that if Adobe do add this feature (please do) that they do not get tempted to incorporate this into social networking sites... I do not like the idea that people can tag your picture on line without your permission. let alone be able to publish your photo online.....
Known Participant
May 24, 2011
that is exactly what we need!
I would like then LR to offer us the ability to tag region and link them with Keywords(whether it is a face region or not),( and Person In Photo IPTC/XMP tags when we specify it is a face region).
That would be the firrst step towards face recognition.
Second step would be to extract faces (just face recognition - no person identification) , so that it would improve manual face tagging.
Third step would add the face recognition.
When I speak in term of step I mean version of lightroom, as I understand that developping all that at once may take time and may not be free of bugs.
So we can take time to get there.
johnrellis
Legend
May 23, 2011
The Metadata Working Group, of which Adobe and Microsoft are members, has already defined a standard method for representing regions and metadata associated with those regions. In particular, keywords, map locations, and persons (as already defined by the standards) can be associated with regions. This all gets stored in XMP metadata, of course.

See "Guidelines for Handling Image Metadata, Version 2", section 5.9 for more details.
john beardsworth
Community Expert
Community Expert
May 22, 2011
Remember that XMP is only the language or syntax used. There's an IPTC standard field - Person Shown. Build out from there - and the X stands for (user) extensible.
Known Participant
May 22, 2011
I added a related feature request:

ability to tag a picture region
Known Participant
May 22, 2011
I would hate if the face information were not stored in the XMP data.
That is already one of the biggest issue with PICASA, and is why I do not use it anymore.
Note that Microsoft already created a XMP structure to store face information. (It is just a little bit too much microsoft centric since one of the record is related to a MSN account, but you do not need to fill it)
By the way it would be nice if lightroom could read these tags (and write them) as well.
PS: As for family structure I have no problem with them so far, keeping it simple, with just the family name.

But maybe we could invent a XMP tag that would allow for complex tree such as family tree ...