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June 19, 2023
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P: Put the 'transform' tools under the 'crop and straighten' tab

  • June 19, 2023
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The transform tools should really be placed within the cropping and straightening tools under that sperate tab. It will clean up the correction tools tab a little, and transform is more relevant to cropping and composition than standard correction tools. 

 

 

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JohanElzenga
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June 21, 2023

I know what you mean. It's not semantics, it's the fact that this panel (or section, whatever you want to call it) is not available until you activated the crop tool and I don't think it is useful to have to activate that tool if I don't want to use it but want to use something else. Anyway, requests are free. I don't work for Adobe so I don't decide this. It's just my opinion. 

 

-- Johan W. Elzenga
joejukesAuthor
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June 21, 2023

As you are well aware, there are several tabs under the histogram. One of the tabs opens the crop and straighten tool. This clearly can be described as a 'cropping section'. Semantics is all.  I would prefer if all cropping and straightening tools, including perspective, as it's the in the same catagory to me, were under that tab. So when I press R, I can access them all with ease, instead of scrolling for the transform tools as well as pressing R. I often use both in conjunction, but even if not - A tap of R to get to either would be a welcome shortcut. 

 

 

JohanElzenga
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June 21, 2023

But not my point. My point is that there is no 'cropping section' in Lightroom, unless you activate the crop tool. I see no reason to do that just to be able to make perspective corrections.

 

-- Johan W. Elzenga
joejukesAuthor
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June 21, 2023

Exactly my point, it's essentially a crop tool in itself, so it should be under the cropping section. 

Of course I understand that may not work for everyone's workflow (your complaint it would  'force' you to work differently or against what you would want to do, also applies to me and why I suggest this change) - in an ideal world we should be able to put anything wherever we like, C1style. That has been requested and ignored for years and years though. 

I would much prefer this methodology, the tabs at the top be user changeable, one for tone and colour, one for cropping and transform, one for masking etc - but each one being able to be user chosen. Again, Capture One style. 

And no, LRC's ability to change the order and hide various panels doesn't really cut it for me. 

JohanElzenga
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June 21, 2023

The Crop Tool panel is only activated when I select the crop tool, so why would it be a good idea to force me to do that if I do not want to crop the image but change the perspective? In many cases doing this does not require the crop tool at all. There is a 'constrain crop' checkbox, and certain corrections don't require cropping anyway because they expand the image at some side. So having to invoke it seems a needless extra step. BTW, you do know that you can rearrange the order of the panels, don't you?

 

-- Johan W. Elzenga
joejukesAuthor
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June 20, 2023

Well the crop tool is also a panel with multiple parts. There is little difference there in all honesty. I just suggest add the transform tools within that panel. Probably underneath, placement isn't important. 

When when I'm cropping and straightening my photos I'm also considering transformations, certainly when they overlap. Much more so then than when I'm editing tones and colours, which is where it is located now. 

I think the toning section is a mess, compared to the organisation of the other tabs, and I think this would help somewhat with that. 

JohanElzenga
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June 20, 2023

So how do you envision that? The Crop tool is a tool, located in the toolbar right beneath the histogram. Transform is a panel with multiple sliders and buttons. What should go where (and why is that preferable over the current design)?

 

-- Johan W. Elzenga