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March 31, 2011
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P: Relative Develop Presets

  • March 31, 2011
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Lightroom--I would love to see relative presets as opposed to only absolute presets. For example, I may want to add +10 of yellow in Temperature to what ever setting exists and not a static number.

This would be great for white balancing where pleasing color is preferable over accurate color. I may want to white balance a set of pictures and add +10 of yellow to warm things up.

I find a lot of presets aren’t useful in my workflow, but a relative color temp/tint would be.

Thanks,

Reid

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F. McLion
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Community Expert
October 22, 2015
I'm sorry to say, but you seem to have missed the idea.
This not about baking in developments into RAW.
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Known Participant
October 22, 2015
I wouldn't suggest that as an idea, since it would A) require extra steps and B) would negate the RAW advantage. Never bake anything in if you can avoid it. That's the policy.
Known Participant
October 22, 2015
The alternative that occurred to me recently is some sort of "Normalize" button which bakes the current global settings into the image while resetting all the slider positions back to zero, thereby letting you use any preset in a relative way.

However, this idea doesn't work cleanly for all settings (e.g. toggles) so may be impractical to implement unless the rule is that only sliders are baked in / normalized.
Known Participant
October 22, 2015


I just finished a webinar with Lightroom users from across the globe and it was unanimous, everyone still wants "relative presets". Who's in favor of relative presets that would allow you to increase or decrease any give slides by x value, rather than just moving them to a given position on the slider. Imagine being able to increase contrast, clarity, noise reduction and sharpening all by a certain amount with the touch of one button. You could then truly have a preset you could use as a universal sharpening preset. Or any such combination of adjustments... who's with me on this?
Inspiring
May 5, 2015
So no feature for relative adjustments of develop module parameters in LR6 - have to say I'm extremely disappointed by this
areohbee
Legend
January 13, 2015
Well, the feature may be well hidden, but it is somehow doable.. - I occasionally receive email notices that comments I post here have been "liked", so I guess Kate knows how to do it, as do some others - I just haven't found the secret, yet..
Known Participant
January 13, 2015
I think you'll find that's yet another missing feature! 😉
areohbee
Legend
January 13, 2015
Lotta compromises in this world ;-}.

PS - How do you *like* a comment? I see how to *like* a "root level" post, but not a "comment level" post.
areohbee
Legend
January 13, 2015
Gazoo assures all settings are within range before applying them, so results are always deterministic (predictable and consistent). I can't speak for all plugins.

Of course if you keep saying "go up", the limit will eventually be reached - same will be true when Adobe implements the feature natively.

Although I understand the benefit of being able to go up infinitely (e.g. baking in changes) what you are asking for there is a whole different ball game than just supporting relative presets.. - it would probably mean a whole new app which supports caching (in baked form) of non-destructive image edits which current Lr design does not support (due to "non-linearity" of applied adjustments..). BTW such is a request which I have already made here in a different thread, since such change would be beneficial not only for allowing infinite adjustment (or mixing process versions..) but to keep from slowing down as more local edits are piled on. I doubt this will ever happen in Lr, or at least not anytime soon - hope I'm wrong..

That said, there is nothing to stop you from exporting an RGB file to continue work on.
Known Participant
January 12, 2015
Alternatively, Lightroom could support sliders going beyond their current min & max values.

Either way, Lightroom itself needs to change.