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October 19, 2017
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P: Should be able to Sync full raw files to the cloud, not just smart previews

  • October 19, 2017
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Lightroom Classic, like Lightroom CC (what a confusion this naming causes!) should be able to upload full raw files to the cloud and not just smart previews. This is clearly a missing feature. This is especially handy if you mainly use Lightroom Classic because of its much more powerful editing and ability to actually print but would love to edit the full image from other machines.

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Inspiring
August 12, 2019
Jao, your suggestion is really interesting. My point is on how to import only the files that are in a lightroom collection without having to select them one by one. Any suggestion on the workflow?

thanks,

Paolo
Califdan2
Inspiring
August 7, 2019
I wouldn't worry about "only" having Smart Previews available on the iPad.  With a typical iPad screen a Smart Preview will give you all the resolution the screen can handle or at least all you really need to do basic editing.  So, even if you could have your full RAW files available i doubt you'd get much benefit other than gobbling up your cloud storage space much faster. 

As you said you do most of your editing in Classic, other than "just feels good" is there a specific reason you feel that having only Smart Previews on the iPad is detrimental to your workflow?
Jao vdLCommunity ExpertAuthor
Community Expert
August 7, 2019
Andrea, the trick is to also run Lightroom CC (now simply called Lightroom) on your computer and after importing and syncing (which places smart previews in the cloud) in Lightroom Classic to also import the raw files in Lightroom Cloudy. This will upload the raw files to the cloud and automatically associate them with your already synced smart previews in the cloud (this is an undocumented feature but it works). This then will make the full raw available on your iPad pro too. Also this will make edits on either Classic or on Lightroom Cloudy sync. Another way is to only import in Lightroom Cloudy. Classic will then automatically download the raw file from the cloud and set it to sync.

If you don't need the full raw on your iPad than just ignore the space available. The smart previews uploaded from Lightroom Classic do not count against the storage limits and for most purposes they are good enough for edits on an iPad.

Ignore the xmp file thing. This is not used in Classic or in Lightroom Cloudy. The xmp files are purely as backup for edits if you use them. They are not used for anything.


Participant
August 7, 2019


I usually edit my shoots in LR Classic, but having an iPad pro I want to use LR CC when I'm not at home, so I am trying to understand how to properly sync the two apps. In classic I have created a 'trial' collection and sync seemed working properly.. but looking at the space available, there where still 20 out of 20 gb. I opened LR CC both on pc and ipad and I could actually see the collection and the pictures, but in the cloud there are only smart previews.

If I create a new collection in CC, it properly uploads RAW files, but in this way I have to import pictures from my drive and not from lightroom cc (so I guess that any edit on Classic would not be seen on CC - I'm not using xmp files)
Antoine HLMN
Known Participant
January 8, 2019
Don’t get me wrong. I don’t say there were no good updates at all. But I don’t feel there have been a lot of significant updates.
ProDesignTools
Community Expert
Community Expert
January 8, 2019
@11600604,

You're right that Adobe is unlikely to expand Lightroom Classic syncing, but it doesn't seem fair to say there have been "no significant updates" over the past 15 months since Lightroom CC was introduced:

https://www.adobe.com/products/photoshop-lightroom-classic/features.html
Antoine HLMN
Known Participant
January 8, 2019
You're right, these are real bottlenecks.

But we really need to get over with; Adobe has said the won't implement new sync features to LR classic. So either we go with their flow and move on to cloud CC, or we keep LR classic with very limited sync features and no significant updates. I've taken my decision and won't switch to cloud, even if CC had all the functionllaities of Classic. If I need to switch to another software, I'll go somewhere else.

There currently are A LOT of bugs, limitations, bottlenecks, limitations and bugs but they won't change a thing as long as the cash continues to flow. They're too money oriented, it's very frustrating.
I've one free year, but I'll definitely reassess my subscription afterwards.
Inspiring
January 7, 2019
The problem i'm having though, is that I shoot weddings.

So, returning home from a wedding with 1600 images that I cull using the rating system in LR Classic (as lets be honest, it's a better program for this purpose) down to roughly 300 images, and then do my editing from within a smart folder looking for the star ratings higher than 1.

As these images are scattered throughout the original folder, I don't want to import the full 1600 images again, just the ones i've shortlisted, but I can't seem to do this without bringing them all over!

This is especially frustrating when the culled images are only a few GB, less than the 20gb my plan offers, but the initial import, of which I don't need in the cloud is 60gb so again i'm hit with another Adobe bottleneck that shouldn't be here that prevents me from moving forward.
JohanElzenga
Community Expert
Community Expert
January 3, 2019
Yes, there is. After you've synced some images from Lightroom Classic (wait till sync has finished), import these same images in Lightroom CC for the desktop. Lightroom CC is clever enough to understand that these are the same images, and so it will replace the smart previews with originals. Lightroom Classic will not re-download these originals.
-- Johan W. Elzenga
djpalmis
Participating Frequently
January 3, 2019
Is there a way to just to upload some raw files via Lightroom CC from Lightroom Classic?
I mean: some way to set on Lightroom CC the file system source of the images taken from could?