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October 27, 2018
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P: Assign People tags to pictures that were missed

Once the indexing has been completed and Lightroom CC has found all the potential faces, it would be nice to have the ability to add People Tags to pictures that were "missed" where no faces were recognized.  The idea of People Tags is to be able to search for people and generate all potential results.  Right now it's messy because you have to resort to keyword tags to identify people that were missed with facial recognition and makes searching and cataloging a tedious task.

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Timothy.Spear
Inspiring
October 28, 2021

@dank87557784 

 

No issue.

 

@Rikk Flohr: Photography 

 

Any chance at an answer. And since you (or another Adobe employee) merged all these threads together, has the answer changed?

 

Tim

Participating Frequently
October 28, 2021

Apologies Tim, I should be specific...I'm asking this of Adobe, and specifically, Rikk Flohr, or another Adobe employee that is being notified of these updates.  I've Upvoted this issue and others, but don't know that it really makes a difference.  The person that started this three years ago KNOWS it doesn't make a difference.

Timothy.Spear
Inspiring
October 28, 2021

Since I do not work for Adobe, I cannot answer any of those questions.

However, I have seen Adobe respond to customer pressure and interest. So, Adobe employees have stated multiple times the way to get visibility of an issue is to upvote it.

So, that is all we can do, unless you have connections others of us do not.

Tim

 

Participating Frequently
October 28, 2021

I'm not sure you're answering my question.  Why would this be marked as "Declined" if there wasn't internal discussion where the functionality was considered and rejected?  I'm asking specifically why the status was changed to "Declined"?  Given that this functionality is available in other similar Adobe products, this entry has been open for at least three years, and most people taking the time to post stated they would not use the application until the issue was addressed, I'm curious specifically what the issue was with incorporating this functionality into the product.

 

Also, for future reference, is there internal review criteria that we customers should be aware of?  As a user of the Adobe Support Community area, I would like to understand the Upvote thresholds for my entries to get any sort of visibility.  Is this entry close....like 110 votes gets another re-assessment...or is the criteria 1000, or 10,000, or 100,000 upvotes before this would be re-assessed?

 

Timothy.Spear
Inspiring
October 27, 2021

@dank87557784 

 

Make sure to upvote the issue.

Adobe often states they look at the number of upvotes an issue gets ot find the importance of it. And besides ranting on here, this is really the only thing we can do. So upvote it, and get your friends to also!

 

Tim

Participating Frequently
October 27, 2021

What is the rational behind this being declined?  Please be specific.

 

Dan

Timothy.Spear
Inspiring
September 1, 2021

@Patbeau 

 

In the joined thread, that is the thrust of the conversation; being able to track images against the people feature; even when Sensai fails to find the individual.

 

I did break it down into more details above of the value for specific parts of the functionality if you are very curious..

 

Tim

Participant
September 1, 2021

Hi

Thanks for your response. I don't want to draw anything to help the face recognition module to do his job. It's not gonna do it...All I wanna do, is to have the hability to manually match some photos (with no face recognition results) to persons. It will allow me to find the photos of my children even during the days of Halloween !!

mathieud65778067
Participating Frequently
August 10, 2021

Hi Adobe team,

I've been using Lightroom CC for one year now, on a PC and an iPad.

However great the software is, there seems to be a few critical features still missing.

One of them is the way people & faces are tags.

One thing you will never be able to prevent: the algorithm will never be able to recognise 100% of appearances for one person. There will always be many reasons for someone even in the middle of a sharp picture, which the algorithm cannot recognise:

- because it's a child with a tiger face mask,

- because the person is turning his back on the picture (and you still want to keep that picture),

- because he has swimming pool glasses

- because he's swimming and covered with water

- because he's too far (and small) on the picture

- because his head is upside-down on the picture

- and so on....

For all these reasons, some features are absolutely critical to add in Lightroom CC:

1. Most importantly: be able to manually add one person / face to a photo, even if Lightoom hasn't recognised that there was someone unknown to it. Currently, you can add a tag with a name, but then you have 2 tags in LR for that person: 1 keyword + 1 person's tag. This is really suboptimal for searches.

2. Currently, using LR on the PC, the software shows you the people already recognised on the picture. So you know if someone is missing or not. However on the ipad, this is crucially missing.

Many thanks for your help

Timothy.Spear
Inspiring
July 12, 2021

@Rikk 

In this thread you mention the focus is to enhance the facial recognition engine itself.

Although this has improved, it is still lacking. Therefore, at a minimum allowing the ability to tag individuals in the People section without using keywords and facial regions is foundational to solving this issue. Adding this feature will also do a lot to reduce the pressure to develop the "perfect" facial recognition AI.

Never let perfection be the enemy of good. You see this applied to many areas of LightRoom Desktop, why not to this part of the application?

Tim