P: Bring back JPEG quality percentage to Export As dialog

I agree Dan, I'm a graphics/ web developer and the loss of percentage quality results in unsastifactory image file sizes. It was actually a key feature why I use PS for webpage image editing especially to calibrate image quality against page download speeds. Not really what you would expect from a professional editing app. Even the wording and limited degree of choices is somewhat infantile. Not happy.   

They should simply have a toggle switch in the new export to choose whether you want to use percentage or their presets.

One good thing about the "new" export window is it loads the image/preview faster. Maybe they coded it with those break points for a performance boost as the old export window has some lag.

Considering this is a professional tool though, and Photoshop has always given us the freedom to choose percentage, it would make way more sense to have both in one window—a percentage slider (not in a menu like the old export, which is just goofy and slow) with a one-click text field to change the percentage and up/down arrows (besides the functionality of using the arrow keys + modifiers), and optional presets that we could set, modify and name. The bottom left of the window is full of dead space anyway. The problem with jpg presets is every imaeg is different, which is why granular control has always been necessary.

If they actually apply themselves, each section of the export could be dragged and dropped anywhere in the UI with additional modules. Other graphics software has been doing this for over a decade.

Hello,

can you please help me? 60% quality to what description now it corresponds? Good/Very Good/Excellent/Great ?

Dan's advice to checkmark  on Use legacy "Export As" actually got me out of a jam when the dialog blank-screened and refused to load. I went back to Preferences > Export and unchecked Legacy and got back a working Export dialog. Re-checking Legacy got the old dialog back minus the blank screen.

I took a look at Save As jpeg file sizes, at each quality setting. Here's a mid-size image that weighs in at 135 GB as 16 bit TIFF. Starting at 12 and ending at 0:

Standard      7.2M   3.7M   2.0M   1.5M   1.2M   1.0M   862K   727K   662K   618K   479K   422K   399K

Optimized   5.9M   3.1M   1.8M   1.2M   988K   760K   690K   560K   482K   431K   401K   337K   311K

Otimized crunches the color component an extra round (as I understand it).

So there's a lot to choose from, and you'd think weighing file size against quality was a core Export function. So why only 7 steps seems odd. Export does not even let you choose between standard and optimized (SFW does).

All that said, a little pragmatism goes a long way. I do manage a small website of my own (non-Adobe related), and I find that the main consideration in practice is sharpening. The sharper it is, the bigger it gets, and that can have more impact than the jpeg quality level. So finding the optimal sharpening is often the overriding concern, and if you ask me personally, 7 quality levels is quite enough.

I agree, but mostly because it sounds silly. Topping "excellent" with "great"? Why not ..."fabulous"?

The compression algorithm always worked in discrete steps, so that, say, 59% would be the same as 65%, and then it would jump to the next step at, say, 68%. 

The question is how many steps. Photoshop's Save As traditionally had 12.

Good/Very Good/Excellent/Great ... I feel like I'm grading papers for kindergarten. Thanks for the tip, Dan.

Adobe, you're not serious, are you? Where did the slider go in the latest version? Why those fuzzy and highly unprofessional categories to choose from?

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