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Inspiring
August 22, 2019
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P: Generate mask from Blend If

  • August 22, 2019
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When using Blend If in Photoshop, is it possible for Adobe to create a mask (to be able to use on the spot) in between this layer and underlying layer. This would be the greatest change to photoshop in decades, and would help creative people more than ever, come up with newer approaches to their visual work!

Why didn't Adobe think of doing something as simple as that. The layer masking could also be in the Blend If Panel too! Make this happen please.

26 replies

Inspiring
November 25, 2023

@JasperGoodallYes, Lumenzia can convert BlendIf (including this, under, or both) into a layer mask. It's helpful for both refinement as well as just learning more about how BlendIf works. Just ctrl/cmd-click the "Mask" button in the plugin (the tooltip for the button mentions this as a reference). https://gregbenzphotography.com/lumenzia

You can learn more in the plugin by clicking "?" and "Mask" for a demo, or via the written manual (which can be found under the flyout menu at top-right of Lumenzia).

JasperGoodall
Inspiring
November 23, 2023

I have wanted this since forever. Lumenzia plug in will do it https://gregbenzphotography.com/lumenzia-demos/

It's quite hidden and off the top of my head I cant remember the shift/command key combo but I have made masks from blend if using Lumenzia made by @gregbenz 

Ivan Zajats
Inspiring
November 20, 2023

The request is not even under review?! Adobe, come on... will you finally make any useful updates?

Participant
September 27, 2022

evey one iam happy to say to you i found ittt !!!!!!!some thing veryyyyyyyyyyyyyyy closeeeee  chek this short video https://youtu.be/9NzAAAlrEjA       my language is not very good but you have to understand\

 

 

 

Ivan Zajats
Inspiring
March 7, 2022

By the way, here should be Layer(s) or Image, because it takes into consideration all the layers. I've checked 🙂

Ivan Zajats
Inspiring
March 7, 2022

Hey, Adobe, why haven't you done it yet?! Editable masks from Blend if would be a great feature!

Participant
May 19, 2020
You can mask the luminance of a blend-if layer, but it’s much harder to mask a specific color channel blend-if. The easiest way to create a mask from a layer with blend-if applied is to place the said layer(s) in a folder group and then flatten that groups contents. It should create a new raster layer with all the opaque alpha aspects of the child ‘blend-if’ layers. From this you can just select the contents of the flattened group et viola, you have a selection of the blend-if
It’s complex, but if you have a subject on a blank background blend-if masking is most reliable and nuanced way to mask a subject in Photoshop.
c.pfaffenbichler
Community Expert
Community Expert
August 24, 2019
I hope you can imagine what I wish to convey. 
Not exactly, I guess. 
But I suspect that you might just be trying to communicate a need for Smart Layer Masks: 
Photoshop: "Smart Masks" - Masks that are Smart Objects
Photoshop: Smart filters and live adjustments for mask layers
Photoshop: How to use a smart object as a layer mask?

I should be able to use the gradient tool and assign an adjustment layer to it as well. 
Smart Objects with Blend if -settings in Groups as the basis of a Clipping Mask can already utilise additional Adjustments (like Gradient Map) and Layer Masks


Inspiring
August 24, 2019
It stood out where I wanted the layer mask, like a bolt of lightning!
Where I want the layer mask, I mean the Blend If 'Separation Mask', is where the slider, light or dark, on either side, separates by holding down the option key, it's in that area of separation that I want the mask to take place, and I should be able to use the gradient tool and assign an adjustment layer to it as well. This is like having a calculated mobile option key selected 'live' action variable mask for compositing purposes and special effects. It's like a film or video effect action on a static image.
Ideally mini mobile masks on all sides of the sliders would be preferable, but for now just the slider option key separation gap, from its starting point, would be great! I can already see a use for it, in the example above in the top right hand corner of the image. Veronika's hair could be placed back in full, and still hold the Blend If look. I hope this explains what I've been trying to put across, even considering the other suggested approaches.
It would work as a timesaver, and change the approach given photos.

This requires a further explanation. 0-255 (this layer) / 0-255 (underlying layer)
This layer slider 255 moved to 186 as an example, a mini mask for that space is created, but consider it on hold at the moment for this discussion. The slider option key is held down on the triangle, to separate the slider for a more revealing display, to let's say 89, leaving a space from 186 to 89, where another mini mask is developed for that space, the same occurs for the 0 dark slider on the other side.
This is all conducted on the fly, with the main Blend If creation made, suspended in a holding pattern, called a 'Smart Action' (new term), (similar to a Smart Layer, in the sense that adjustment layers and filters work within a Smart Layer). The difference being that the new Blend If 'Smart Action', would have working automatic 'Space Masks' within. Mini 'Space Masks that can be filtered and adjusted, or used by tools like the Gradient tool if desired.

I hope you can imagine what I wish to convey. The Blend If initially created is like a temporarily suspended screen shot held for further effect by the Smart Action mini-mobile Space Masks. That's the best explanation I can come up with at this moment to impart what I mean. Maybe there are many other work arounds right now, but this could become exceedingly fast once comprehended. Have a good day or night wherever you live.
Inspiring
August 23, 2019
Here's an example of an attempted expression utilizing blend if, and how it can possibly be simplified more than what I'm trying to achieve, in an easier, smoother way.