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June 19, 2014
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P: Menu too small on Windows high res display

  • June 19, 2014
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On my monitor (2560 x 1600) the menu on CC 2014 is too small - so tiny I can hardly read it. Selecting Expereimental 2nd option makes the whole programme far too big. Either so small I can't see it unless I sit very close to the monitor or so big it is unusable.
No problems with PS CC, only PS CC 2014. Having to unistall CC 2014 and go back to CC. Support offer NO solution

346 replies

be.free
Known Participant
October 14, 2015
Good post there Robert. You know, Adobe turnover 2015 1.25billion with net profits of $150million. You'd think they could afford to buy the best coders to fix the problem for their most used and famous piece of software...
be.free
Known Participant
October 14, 2015
My question is: how is it possible that all other Adobe software work fine - Illustrator, InDesign, Fireworks, Dreamweaver all no problem...ONLY Photoshop has the issue. it is therefore NOT a windows problem - stop blaming Microsoft and fix your bloody software!
Inspiring
October 13, 2015
We released the update for 200% UI scaling in Photoshop CC 2014, as noted in the official answer at the top of this topic. That was as soon as we could release it after working with Microsoft to address the Windows issues that caused problems for UI scaling in complex applications. We are continuing to work with Microsoft to address the remaining issues in Windows to allow more flexible UI scaling.
Participating Frequently
October 13, 2015
As a user, and as a past Product Marketing Manager for software, the CS design team made a bad choice. You should have fixed the menu problems for the sake of usability. Now you're living with disgruntled customers and can't fix it without major pain. My case is only a 120DPI monitor; can't imagine users with 2k displays. And a simple patch to explode the UI features 200%? Well, that's a knee jerk panic mode approach; another sign of questionable decision making.
Inspiring
October 13, 2015
That just shows that Photoshop doesn't allow the OS to override the menu font - because we know of problems in that situation that would make the menu bar not work correctly.
Inspiring
October 13, 2015
The OS controls the menu font size on Windows. And you can count the 9 pixel hight of the fonts in Photoshop --- which is the same as Excel's menu type.

Photoshop is using the OS standard fonts for it's UI, and those are vector fonts, not bitmaps. Excel is turning off the OS LCD color filter antialiasing for their menus (and I'd love to know how, since that is drawn by the OS) - but that is the only major difference.
Participating Frequently
October 13, 2015
And while I'm beating this dead horse... Windows Apps allow changing the UI font:



Which yields this Excel vs CS menu comparison. One more strike proving CS isn't using standard system fonts.

Participating Frequently
October 13, 2015
I beg to differ. Here's an example from my desktop... Desktop small font is 9 pixels for a lower case. The CS menu font is only 5 pixels. I'm not even sure I have any 5 pixel fonts installed (and this install doesn't have any Adobe fonts).



Here's two UI menus together: top is MS Excel, bottom CS. CS is NOT using the standard system font.



One other usability point, with the UI this small, finding the corner of the eye-dropper is more than painful. It's tedious and even my mouse squirms.
Inspiring
October 13, 2015
No, Adobe uses the OS standard fonts for it's UI, which are vector. I'm not sure where you got bogus information about using bitmapped fonts.

But Windows had some problems with UI scaling until relatively recently - when we worked with Microsoft to get 200% UI Scaling working in Photoshop, as described above in the official answer at the top of the topic.
Participating Frequently
October 13, 2015
This issue has been around since Adobe first started writing Windows versions.

Adobe uses bit mapped fonts for their UI... makes it look pretty and ensures icons and related text stay the same size (the easy/lazy approach), but also makes the UI incompatible with a user's personal needs.

I won't be upgrading to any new Adobe product.