P: Please support PixelBender in CS6/CC

Hi Buko, post a new idea for this if you haven't. Chris may have an idea how to do it using the tools currently in PS.

I realize that most of the people here are complaining about the oil painting filter. I really don't care about this filter or really have a use for it.

What I do have a use for is the peel off white plugin from berg design. this plugin works/worked flawlessly and removed all the white including % of white. So far what I seen, actions created by others, does not work as well in the gray areas and end up converting the file to grayscale. Maybe the photoshop guys should talk to the guys at berg design to incorporate peel off white into the app.

I would really like to see this in the next version.

I believe the original peel off white was made with pixel factory.

Yes, the Oil Paint Filter was simplified when it was officially added to Photoshop. There were probably good reasons for this (user testing, data on slider use, supportability, etc). I wasn't on the team that implemented the Oil Paint filter so don't know all the details myself.

The Idea/feature request to bring back the entirety of "Support Pixel Bender in CS6" is highly unlikely. Sorry, that's the reality given the reasons Chris has mentioned earlier on this thread.

It feels as if most people on this thread lament missing some additional control in the new CS6 Oil Paint filter. So, it may make more sense to frame a new topic around specific requests to make Oil Paint more powerful with visual examples of what you're trying to achieve. (I know there are some good examples on this thread already)

I can't promise anything, but I can tell you that would be in the realm of something that might be possible compared to officially supporting all of Pixel Bender, the filters it contains, and the SDK by adding it to Photoshop.

That you would have to take up with the author of OilPaint, who cleaned up the UI in it for Photoshop CS6.

"Oil Paint was the most used aspect of Pixel Bender so it spawned the new Oil Paint filter in CS6."
Except that the OilPaint filter in CS6, which *could have been the same filter as the PixelBender filter, simply isn't. You cannot achieve the same results with the new version as with the old, so that it remains necessary to have an earlier version of photoshop installed in order to have functionality that we had previously.

"How do you measure 'level of interest?"

# of downloads, and in-product usage. (Launch Photoshop see Help>Adobe Product Improvement Program... to opt in if you haven't)

Pixel Bender was a technology preview available on Adobe Labs: http://labs.adobe.com/about/ that was never a shipping/officially supported product/feature: http://labs.adobe.com/about/faq/#itemA-8

Oil Paint was the most used aspect of Pixel Bender so it spawned the new Oil Paint filter in CS6.

Your case #3 is what happened -- no interest = no ROI.
(and you "voted" by showing any interest in the pixel bender technology, which really didn't get a lot of adoption)

Also, the team going away made it somewhere between expensive and impossible to support.

If a feature that worked in a previous version is dropped from a newer version, the only possible reasons would be:

1. Too much work to get it working - means really bad software design
2. Feature not relevant / important - means someone made a mistake when previous release's features were drafted out
3. Expensive to support and company does not see a ROI - seems most plausible reason. In which case, Adobe can always say 'feature is available but not supported so please do not call us about it'. This would have been a respectable decision.

Just dropping saying 'there is no interest' is just corporate arrogance. How do you measure 'level of interest'. I am unaware of any public voting conducted. Microsoft did the same thing when one day they decided to drop copy paste feature from their windows phones !!!

one other problem i encountered with the new "oil paint" filter is that it does not support my graphics processor. One more reason to keep older version of Photoshop.

Chris Cox, you state that the OilPaint filter is built into Photoshop CS6. That is not exactly accurate. There is a filter that bears some resemblance to the OilPaint filter that shipped with the Pixel Bender version we had previously, but you cannot achieve the same effects with it, so it is not the same filter. It is still necessary to run two versions of Photoshop to be able to access the "real" OilPaint filter.