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Kimblah
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October 20, 2017
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Premiere CC 2018 Threadripper bad scrubbing performance

  • October 20, 2017
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Hi,

Just build my Threadripper system (1950x, 32GB, 1080 Ti) and what I notice is that the scrubbing performance is pretty slow compared to my Intel laptop (i7 4790K, 32GB, 970M). I'm using GH5 ALL-I 4K files. Files are on SSD raid on Threadripper system and single SSD on laptop. Playback is ok, but scrubbing timeline is really bad.  Both systems are just installed with Windows Fall Creators update. Is premiere just badly optimized?

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    Correct answer Kevin-Monahan

    Team Threadripper:

    Please upvote this bug: Better Threadripper Support – Adobe video & audio apps

    Hope we can get this solved for you all.

    Thanks,
    Kevin

    22 replies

    Kevin-Monahan
    Community Manager
    Kevin-MonahanCommunity ManagerCorrect answer
    Community Manager
    January 4, 2019

    Team Threadripper:

    Please upvote this bug: Better Threadripper Support – Adobe video & audio apps

    Hope we can get this solved for you all.

    Thanks,
    Kevin

    Kevin Monahan - Sr. Community & Engagement Strategist – Pro Video and Audio
    Participating Frequently
    January 22, 2019

    the problem is that with h264 file (go pro and drone) or 4k

    also with a monster pc , in premiere we need to use proxy or is impossibile to have a fluid preview when you work

    gigeli82367597
    Inspiring
    January 22, 2019

    Try apple Ipad pro and then come back with some thoughts why premiere pro can't handle some files.

    gigeli82367597
    Inspiring
    November 21, 2018

    I was arguing in may 2018 with some user here about how antiquated Premiere pro and that we will reach a point where even tablets will beat massive workstations built for Adobe by Pugetsystems and other companies, well, it seems that time is now

    I tried to edit an ENTIRE video on iPad Pro... - YouTube

    So, Ipad pro can cut  4k footage, flawlessly from A7III and on PC you need at least octacore, 32gb ram, powerful GPU and after all that  scrubbing is bad.

    This is absurd, there is no point in talking about hardware needs for Adobe, it's all about when this software will get an actual update.

    Participating Frequently
    December 30, 2018

    same problem,

    i need to change my pc... i9 xxxxx ssd gtx1080 ..... total 2000 and more dollars for what?

    when i try to work on a dji mavic file or go pro file or 4k file, is not possibile (freezing, not smooth..and if you apply a colour is worst) and i need to convert all in pro res?

    they are serious?

    gmata007-4fy2xS
    Participant
    November 18, 2018

    Any updates with the latest version of Adobe? I am about to build a 1950x / 1080ti system and I am wondering of its better now?

    dutchy_on_a_bike
    Known Participant
    November 18, 2018

    It’s not fixed. Prem 2019, is dropping frames in the source monitor. It even drops frames when playing an empty timeline!! Mark

    Known Participant
    November 8, 2018

    I ran the PPBM benchmark on the new version 13.0.1 using the PPBM12-1 project (don't know if it's OK ? or wrong ?)

    On my Threadripper 1950X and GTX 1080Ti I got the result : 186","46","13","132"

    MPE gain of 132/13=10,2 (don't know what it means ?)

    PECourtejoie
    Community Expert
    Community Expert
    November 14, 2018

    I believe it is a paid access to review the other results, but having a few standard numbers would help figure out if something's bad...

    dutchy_on_a_bike
    Known Participant
    August 24, 2018

    The bad scrubbing for me seems to be mainly with .mxf files. I was digging through some old stock vision today that was shot an a Sony Z7. It was recorded in HDV 1080/25psf, when I used to work with this Long GOP format I had no choice but to transcode. But with the Threadripper and GTX1080ti I can scrub with zero effort or lag, I can J,K,L at multiple times fwd and reverse. It really is smooth. And when I exported a straight clip with NO effects to h.264, the GPU showed 100% usage and CPU 70% usage and 50% of RAM (32 out of 64GB) From this I can tell that the computer and Premiere can work together really well, but for me, the .mxf's are Premieres achilles heel. Mark

    dutchy_on_a_bike
    Known Participant
    August 16, 2018

    Yesterday I did a live support chat with Adobe regarding the dropped frame issue. I work with .mxf HD files, both inter-frame and intra-frame. The Long GOP is where Premiere is having troubles. After the usual trouble shooting, he advised that I transcode my .mxf to and .mp4, (I know that is not a solution, but I did as requested). No surprise, the .mp4 played fine with no dropped frames. When I mentioned that it was not a solution, as .mp4 only supports 2 channel audio plus a bunch of other reasons, he wrote this "Premiere pro support mxf files but having know issue with mxf files. Our engineering department is working on this concern to fix the issue Thank you. DO not worry Mark I will pass this concern be half of you to my engineering department to get it fixed in next update."

    I guess we wait for this update...

    Mark

    Dragonfly Media

    Participating Frequently
    August 10, 2018

    I submitted a bug/feature for this here : Better Threadripper Support – Adobe video & audio apps 

    Throw some votes on it if you want!

    Participating Frequently
    August 9, 2018

    Here are my results from the Benchmark "86","44","13","135", Premiere Version:, 12.1.2.69

    My specs are :

    AMD Threadripper 1950x

    GTX 1080 TI

    64gb RAM

    1 M.2 SSD for System

    1 SSD for Media

    While working with footage (1080p) from the A7s I have dropped frames during playback with straight out of the camera footage (no effects) My timeline was made from the same settings as the source footage.

    Can someone tell me whats going on?

    dutchy_on_a_bike
    Known Participant
    August 12, 2018

    It seems everyone with a similar build to yours, including myself, that Premiere, Threadripper, and GTX 1080ti don't play well together. Even the source monitor has trouble playing files. I don't have a solution for the dropped frames, just a work around. The only way I can work with my set-up it to transcode all my vision to either Cineform or Pro-Res, then the dropped frames issue becomes minimal. I shoot in XAVC .mxf, in both inter-frame 50mbps and intra-frame 100mbps, it is painful for playback straight out of the camera. It is not a computer issue as Davinci Resolve will ANYTHING, smooth as butter. Mark

    Participating Frequently
    June 23, 2018

    why premiere is so bad??

    is not possibile that i create a monster pc configuration (1950x 16 core...64 gb) and all of us have problem with the playback that result jerk and chobby...

    Adobe wake up!!!

    Participating Frequently
    May 3, 2018

    My specs are 1950x with 1080ti boot drive is M.2 nvme 960 Pro 32GB of RAM Trident Z 3000mhz I still have problems with Premiere crashing all the time. I use the ryzen power plan for Windows. I use the boot drive to run premiere and I run my scratch disk off a regular SSD WD blue. I found that making separate bins for all my media music and timeline has stop Premiere from freezing up. I am still having quite a few issues with type sinking and Premiere freezing up. I am amazed that you can buy such a Enthusiast CPU and have such issues with a program. Are there any settings I can change or am I doing something wrong.

    Bill Gehrke
    Inspiring
    May 3, 2018

    Well I have no Threadripper myself but have received PPBM test results from a number of people that seem to have found ways to run Premiere very successfully with a 1950X and a GTX 1080 Ti.  Here are the scores of a really great configured and tuned computer.

    "48","43","13","140", Premiere Version:, 12.0.0.224, 1950X, GTX1080 Ti, 11/29/2017

    You might download the Premiere Pro BenchMark, unzip it, run it and the submit,the two files and see if we can help you out