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Upgrade Help (8/2018)

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August 9, 2018
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The recent Premiere update pointed out improvements in speed for 7th gen or later Intel CPUs which got me thinking...is it time to upgrade my MB and CPU?

I'll list my specs below and what it is I do regularly and any help/advice on upgrade vs. don't worry about it would be helpful.

The Crash on 8-6-18:

It's been a long time since I visited this forum. But a good crash will always make you rethink your hardware setup. After 3-4 good years on my build I had BOTH my OS drive (Samsung 850 Pro) crash and my 4TB RAID0 Striped HDD Media Drive crash on me at once. Both were unrecoverable. I knew the RAID0 might go, but the 850 Pro shocked me.

- So after the crash I replaced my Media Drive and picked up a 2TB 860 Evo.

- And I replaced my OS Drive and picked up a 860 Pro (so I don't have to wait for warranty replacement)

So now my setup looks like this:

Motherboard: Asus X99 Deluxe

CPU: Intel 5960x

RAM: 64GB (8 x 8GB ) G.Skill DDR4 2666 (PC4-21300)

GPU: GTX 970

OS Drive: 512 GB Samsung 860 Pro (NEW - replaced yesterday)

Cache Drive: 256GB Samsung 850 Pro

Media Drive: 2TB Samsung 860 Evo (NEW - replaced yesterday)

Case: Corsair 760T

Windows 10 Pro

Premiere 12.0.1 (hadn't updated because one big project was started on 12.0.1 and it's not quite done yet)

Performance PRIOR to Crash:

Performance prior to this crash was pretty good. Some minor playback stuttering while thumbnails populated after scrolling quickly through timeline. But overall, it was okay. Very busy timeline with multicam and lots of dissolves and TONS of warp stabilized footage. All footage was shot at 1080p60 and everything is edited at 24p.

****We will be upgrading cameras to shoot 4k60p this year and still edit on 24p timeline.***

WHAT I DO: Heavy Video Editing Primarily Weddings. Lots of Sony XAVC-s 1080p60 (soon to be 4k60p) footage on 24p timeline. Lots of Multicam. Lots of Warp Stabilizer (several hundred clips per project). I feel like all the warp stabilization is CPU intensive and all the frame dropping at high res is CPU and Memory intensive. NOTE about my RAM: I had to upgrade from 32 to 64gb last year because Premiere would slow to a stutter after a couple hours of editing. Closing premiere and opening it back up again flushed the memory and I'd be back up to full speed. Since going to 64gb, I haven't had that issue. Also FYI...I don't render much at all. No need.

BUDGET: eh, hard to say but I'd love to keep it under $800 if I'm upgrading ONLY my MB and CPU. I know CPU's can get crazy expensive, so I might be able to budge a bit, but that's my hope. One can always "hope" right? Obviously if I was upgrading my GPU and RAM and more I'd have to budget more. But not sure that's needed in my case. --- If someone were to say "for what you described, you really need to do ____ , and that will cost ____ much more" than I'd consider it, just at a later date. Right now, I have $800 left (after replacing the drives above) to spend and wondering if I should jump or wait...and if I should wait...wait for what?

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RjL190365

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QuickSync is an Intel technology that utilizes the integrated graphics that's inside the CPU package to accelerate H.264 and H.265 encodes (exports). Only those mainstream-level i3, i5 and i7 CPUs with integrated Intel HD, UHD or Iris graphics support QuickSync.

A discrete GPU means any separate GPU at all, whether it's through an add-in card or a separate chip on the system board.

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DMH79Author

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RjL190365 wrote
QuickSync is an Intel technology that utilizes the integrated graphics that's inside the CPU package to accelerate H.264 and H.265 encodes (exports). Only those mainstream-level i3, i5 and i7 CPUs with integrated Intel HD, UHD or Iris graphics support QuickSync.
A discrete GPU means any separate GPU at all, whether it's through an add-in card or a separate chip on the system board.

So, based on my current system listed in the OP, do you see any upgrades that might make everything run even better than it already is. Especially as I prep to move into editing 4k60p footage on a 24p timeline (lots of multicam, lots of dissolves, lots of warp stabilizer)?

I'm less concerned about export speed (usually done overnight anyway) and rendering speed (barely ever need to render stuff) and more focused on smooth and snappy playback performance at full res with all the 4k60p>24p frame dropping and loads of multicam/dissolves/warp stabilizers that we use.

Look forward to your help. Thx.

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RjL190365

Legend

Going from an i7-5###X to a 7###X will not solve your problems, in your case, since none of the HEDT (High-End DeskTop) platforms support QuickSync at all (they do not have integrated graphics at all, and thus will require a discrete GPU just to even function at all).

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DMH79Author

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RjL190365 wrote
Going from an i7-5###X to a 7###X will not solve your problems, in your case, since none of the HEDT (High-End DeskTop) platforms support QuickSync at all (they do not have integrated graphics at all, and thus will require a discrete GPU just to even function at all).

I apologize but can you explain QuickSync and why it would be important in my case. You also mentioned requiring a discrete GPU to even function...I'm confused...does my GTX 970 GPU not count?)

Thank you for your response though...just looking to improve my system specifically for what I edit day in and day out. Your help would be greatly appreciated.

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DMH79Author

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Thoughts?

Looking into maybe swapping in the x299 (which version tho?) and maybe a 7820x cpu. Not sure if that will be a worthy upgrade for what I do.

Also, my media drive is the 2tb 860 evo. If I go the route above should I swap it for the m2 version instead? Any benefits there?

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