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‎Jun 22, 2025
06:35 AM
1 Upvote
Your post is completely off topic. Your Quadro 4000 is not the same GPU as the Quadro RTX 4000 at all. In fact, the Quadro 4000 is about eight years older than the Quadro RTX 4000. And the Quadro 4000 is now long obsolete. Driver version 377.83 dates from all the way back in 2018 and is a security patched variant of a driver that came out in early 2017. Nvidia had completely discontinued all driver updates for all Fermi-architecture GPUs back in March 2018, with security updates lasting only until January 2019.
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‎Jun 12, 2025
08:40 PM
An update: The official release version 25.3 is now available. Currently, only Blackwell-architecture Nvidia GPUs support hardware 10-bit 4:2:0 and 10-bit 4:2:2 H.264 decoding, while hardware 10-bit 4:2:2 HEVC decoding is a first for Nvidia (Intel and Apple GPUs already support hardware 10-bit 4:2:2 decoding for HEVC).
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‎Jun 05, 2025
08:01 AM
2 Upvotes
Almost nine years too late for that response, I'm afraid. The GTX 1050 Ti was mediocre back in 2016, and is seriously outdated if not obsolete today. Newer versions of Premiere Pro hardware accelerate certain rendering features that older GPUs do not support, causing serious degradation of performance.
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‎Jun 04, 2025
07:34 AM
1 Upvote
Ann is correct. Microsoft's support for Windows 10 will officially end (sunset) this coming October, and the Creative Cloud desktop frontend now requires or will soon require Windows 11 23H2 or later just to even install at all. In the meantime, the Creative Cloud desktop frontend app will remain installed, but will be permanently frozen to an older version which will not permit you to update your Creative Cloud apps to a version that's any newer than the version which was the latest at the time of that older app version's release. And if you uninstall the Creative Cloud desktop app, you will no longer be able to perform a clean installation of even the Creative Cloud desktop app, let alone the latest versions of the Creative Cloud programs. In other words, you're stuck with older versions of the Adobe programs until you update your PC to Windows 11 or buy a new PC with Windows 11 pre-installed.
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‎Jun 02, 2025
04:32 PM
That would be a huge improvement for your PC.
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‎Jun 02, 2025
01:41 PM
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I see. So your PC lacks a discrete GPU at all. Instead, it relies solely on that integrated AMD graphics that's on the CPU itself. Well, that integrated GPU is only good for giving you a display on your monitor, and it is much too feeble for anything which calls for GPU acceleration. In addition, the reason why Filmora worked well for you is that Filmora offers very little, if any, GPU-accelerated features. Almost everything that's done in Filmora is CPU-only (or software-only). Premiere Pro, on the other hand, is much more GPU-intensive than Filmora will ever be. In other words, that puny integrated AMD Radeon Graphics got severely overworked when working in Premiere Pro. As a result, you really need a discrete (meaning internal expansion card) graphics card in order for Premiere Pro to run at its best. And do not go for an old or low-end graphics card because it will not be much better than just your integrated CPU-based graphics to justify its current street price.
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‎Jun 02, 2025
10:32 AM
Which exact Radeon GPU do you have? I cannot see the exact model in that screenshot. And if that GPU is at 100% utilization, but you have only a 6-core 12-thread CPU, this may mean that you either cheaped out on the GPU model or are trying to decode heavily compressed hi-res footage that severely taxed the GPU's decoding capability.
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‎May 25, 2025
06:05 AM
The biggest problem with that workstation is simple: Its installed GPU is outdated. That Quadro M4000 is now almost a whopping 10 years old (and based on an architecture that's almost 11 years old) at this point, and it has been depreciated for CUDA support in newer drivers. Specifically, although CUDA is still supported in newer drivers for that GPU Nvidia is now concentrating on the RTX GPUs (initially sold as Quadro RTX, then just plain RTX and now RTX PRO) from this point going forward. That means the Quadro RTX (and the related T-series) GPUs are now the oldest generation to continue receiving CUDA updates. And all pre-RTX GPUs will soon fall into legacy driver support status. What happened in your workstation was that renders in both After Effects and Premiere Pro called for hardware acceleration of certain features that older GPUs did not support at all, which resulted in the rendering of those features falling back onto the CPU in software-only mode or not rendered at all, which in turn negatively affected the overall performance score of that workstation. Worse, most of the effects that got sent to the CPU instead of the GPU are only single-threaded when software-rendered. In other words, both After Effects and Premiere Pro expected a CUDA Compute Capability version of 7.5 or higher, but that M4000's CUDA Compute Capability version was only 5.2 (and the compute capability version is completely separate from the CUDA driver version number). And you cannot change that at all in software; the version is permanently baked into the GPU hardware. As a result, you really need a newer-generation GPU just to keep that Methuselah of a workstation competitive in performance, although that 11-year-old CPU platform will not come anywhere close to matching a recent-generation CPU platform in overall performance.
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‎May 24, 2025
06:34 PM
2 Upvotes
It does okay in Premiere Pro. But After Effects is a completely different story. You see, with AMD GPUs Windows is permanently stuck on OpenCL for GPGPU processing even though AMD had already depreciated that API in favor of ROCm which current versions of Windows do not support at all. Even worse, After Effects performs much, much worse in OpenCL than it does in CUDA (the latter of which is supported only by Nvidia GPUs). Simply put, the performance improvement of the RX 7600 would not be worth the price that you'd be paying for it, coming from an RX 580. And that's not to mention that even the RX 9070 XT performs very poorly in After Effects compared to even a "budget" Nvidia RTX GPU such as the RTX 3050 (mentioned below). So, if you use After Effects frequently, then see if you can get a slightly older-gen Nvidia RTX GPU such as an RTX 3050 8 GB or an RTX 3060 12 GB for around the same price or slightly more than your planned RX 7600. (The newer generation Nvidia GPUs such as the RTX 5060 are insanely expensive for their own good at this time.)
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‎May 24, 2025
06:46 AM
The problem with what you are wishing for is that it is impossible no matter what. Every single MP4 (H.264 and HEVC) encoder in existence always re-compresses video no matter what. The only feasible solution is in one of the replies: Set the bitrate as high as you comfortably can (this means higher than the bitrate of the source video) in order to minimize quality loss.
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‎May 24, 2025
06:26 AM
That's exactly what I meant.
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‎May 23, 2025
12:27 PM
The problem, in your case, is an OEM-customized Intel driver whose latest available version is several months old. And your laptop's OEM failed to update its drivers to a newer version (in all likelihood, the only available driver from Lenovo is a hardware launch-day driver). Worse, attempting to install a generic Intel graphics driver (available directly from the Intel Web site) results in either a warning message or an install error.
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‎May 22, 2025
07:28 PM
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The excessive number of crashes indicate that your GPU may be failing. That degradation of your GPU may have been caused by continued use of a low-quality power supply unit (PSU), whose DC quality is so shoddy that it ends up being a PC component killer. And I would not trust, nor even purchase, a GameMax or GamePower branded PSU at all due to that brand being a scam. The strikes against GamePower/GameMax PSUs include review sample manipulation, paid positive reviews and downgrades in component quality during a given model's production run with absolutely no indication whatsoever. In other words, that so-called "1050W" PSU of yours might very well have been only a 450W unit - and then, your i7-14700K will draw more than 253W by itself off of that PSU! Coupled with the 290W power draw from your RTX 3070 Ti, and you might have very well exceeded the maximum realistic power capacity of that PSU! That is a very common problem with building a higher-end PC such as yours. Go whole hog on the components but cheap out on the PSU. That's just plain foolish, IMHO. Therefore, I would replace that PSU right away before you purchase a new GPU or continue using your PC. If you don't, more of your PC's components will die an ungraceful death.
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‎May 22, 2025
07:19 PM
You're officially out of luck. With the release of version 25.2 of Premiere Pro, the last remaining build of version 23, 23.6.8, became unavailable.
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‎May 22, 2025
07:46 AM
I am sorry to tell you this, but your Pentium Silver-branded CPU is of an older generation which is based on an architecture which has absolutely no AVX2 instruction support whatsoever. Those CPUs remained in production well into 2021. What's more, the very last version of Premiere Pro that was compatible with a non-AVX2 CPU was version 23.x, which is now no longer available although version 23.6.8 remained available until the release of version 25.2, when it was finally dropped. In this case, then, the only solution is an entire new PC.
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‎May 18, 2025
02:56 PM
Thread count is only indirectly proportional to the performance in the Adobe Creative Cloud apps. You also have to factor in the performance per thread, as well. And CPUs from different generations may have vastly different performance-per-clock and performance-per-thread results.
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‎May 14, 2025
07:15 PM
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‎May 09, 2025
03:56 PM
The problem here is that old AMD AM4 platform that does not perform well in After Effects. It (in particular, the Ryzen 9 5950X) scored less than half as much as a newer CPU platform even with the most powerful GPU on the market due to its chipset I/O bottlenecking. The only way to improve that performance is, I'm very afraid to tell you, would be to get an entirely new CPU platform with a newer-generation CPU, a new motherboard and new RAM.
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‎May 04, 2025
03:22 PM
The 5090 will speed up rendering of any GPU-accelerated effects on your editing timeline, for sure. But most of the work is still largely being done by the CPU. If you have an unlimited budget, then the AMD Threadripper and Threadripper Pro CPUs will speed up your exports to intermediate codecs such as ProRes and DNxHR, but they are very expensive. On the other hand, if you're exporting primarily to Long-GOP lossy codecs such as H.264 and HEVC, then the Intel CPUs such as the i9-14900K (and better still the Core Ultra 7 and 9 CPUs) have the advantage. In other words, it depends on what you are planning to export as.
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‎May 02, 2025
06:07 AM
I'm afraid that you're stuck with it. It's a hardware limitation. AMD Radeon GPUs do a lousy job of producing quality hardware transcodes compared to Nvidia GPUs and Intel GPUs (and transcoding quality and recording/streaming quality are two completely different animals when it comes to hardware encoding quality). The only workaround is software encoding, in your case. And you must select software encoding manually in the video settings of the export window with each and every timeline that you'd be exporting; otherwise, the encoder selection will default to hardware encoding, which will bring you back to square one (in this case, the mercy of the hardware encoder image quality gremlins).
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‎May 01, 2025
08:34 PM
It's not Adobe. AMD's encoding quality has always lagged behind that of Nvidia and Intel regardless of which software you're using for encoding. In fact, the encoding quality on even the latest AMD GPUs is only about on a par with an Nvidia GPU from 2016 (the GeForce GTX 10 series).
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‎Apr 29, 2025
08:29 AM
Going with a more powerful GPU will not help your export performance much, in this case. Almost all of the performance improvement is from a more powerful CPU. However, the RTX 5090 will speed up your H.264 and HEVC export performance a bit due to the better NVENC encoders on that GPU compared to your current RTX 2060. And based on your results that you had obtained with the Ryzen 7 3700X and the RTX 2060, I am estimating that exporting using an i9-14900K and an RTX 5090 would take a little less than half, and possibly around one-third, the time it took your 3700X/2060 combo to export to H.264 with most of that improvement coming from a switch to a more powerful CPU.
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‎Apr 22, 2025
03:21 PM
Only Metal will be available as of the last two major versions of premiere Pro, in your case. And as of version 25.2, you can no longer select software-only rendering within Premiere Pro or Media Encoder. Software-only rendering is available in Premiere Pro only in troubleshooting mode. OpenCL is no longer available at all on Macs running the newest-supported version of macOS; therefore, your rendering mode is permanently locked to the Metal GPU acceleration mode.
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‎Apr 19, 2025
07:10 PM
1 Upvote
In this case, then it will not help because all other big-name laptop manufacturers also use their own OEM-customized drivers as well, often installed using legacy non-WDM methods. The only way to circumvent this would be to build your own desktop PC using off-the-shelf components. Barring that, you can try to go directly to Intel's Web site and manually download the driver for your iGPU for the particular Intel Core CPU that your laptop has, and then try to install that. The driver as suggested by Adobe on that particular page you've posted a page out of is outdated and too old to support your particular iGPU.
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‎Apr 19, 2025
05:44 PM
1 Upvote
The problem is OEM customized graphics drivers. Adobe supports only generic Intel graphics drivers, and anything that's customized by the system OEM breaks this compatibility. Unfortunately, your system OEM does not comply with the WDM driver rules, instead installing the driver using the old legacy installation method. That makes updating from that OEM-customized driver to a generic Intel driver frustratingly difficult.
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‎Apr 18, 2025
05:36 AM
2 Upvotes
I agree with Ann. Your GTX 780M is obsolete for several years now. It is a mobile Kepler GPU that Nvidia had already completely discontinued driver support for five years ago, with the very last driver being version 425.31 in mid-2019. All recent versions of Premiere Pro now require a driver version higher than 560.xx just to even be supported at all. In addition, Apple no longer supports CUDA at all beginning with OSX 10.14 (Mojave). And Apple has completely removed OpenCL support in the last couple or so major macOS versions. So, whichever setting that is listed inside the grayed-out selection box will be your default rendering setting (usually Metal, but sometimes software only depending on the GPU) because Adobe has depreciated software-only rendering beginning with version 25.2 of both Premiere Pro and Media Encoder. In other words, you are at the mercy of Apple. Adobe merely had to comply with the demands of the hardware manufacturers.
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‎Apr 15, 2025
07:09 AM
Next thing to check: Which build of Windows 11 is your system running? First release (21H2), 22H2, 23H2 or 24H2? It is possible, even likely, that your particular feature version of Windows 11 has reached EOS (End Of Service) at Microsoft itself, and that you might need to update your feature build to 23H2 or newer just to remain supported by Adobe?
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‎Apr 14, 2025
02:33 PM
1 Upvote
Premiere Pro, beginning with version 25.2, has depreciated the MPE software-only mode. You can no longer choose software-only rendering in Media Encoder at all, and you can access software-only rendering in Premiere Pro only when you hold down the Shift key while launching Premiere Pro and then checking the box marked "Use software-only rendering" (this is the troubleshooting menu). Otherwise, if that Quadro RTX 4000 is the only GPU installed, Premiere Pro and Media Encoder are both permanently locked to the CUDA GPU-accelerated rendering mode (and Adobe has permanently disabled the OpenCL mode for all Nvidia GPUs for hardware-accelerated rendering). By the way, Turing (which your GPU is based on) is now the oldest GPU architecture that is still receiving CUDA updates. Maxwell, Pascal and Volta GPU architectures have their CUDA support frozen to a previous version beginning with the newest branch 570 of the Nvidia drivers. Under that circumstance, I would not be surprised if the next major version of Premiere Pro would require a Turing or newer Nvidia GPU just to even run at all, or else a warning message would pop up singling out unsupported GPU hardware.
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‎Apr 09, 2025
07:27 PM
The problem here is the Windows page file. By itself, it needs at least as much free space on that SSD as the amount of installed RAM that you have in order to function properly. Otherwise, if the SSD runs out of room, the page file cannot expand large enough, resulting in crashes and lock-ups. And trying to disable the Windows page file will not work at all in newer versions of Windows as Windows will always recreate and expand that page file no matter what.
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‎Apr 09, 2025
07:21 PM
1 Upvote
The problem here is OpenCL. Adobe video programs just do not perform well in OpenCL compared to in CUDA. Unfortunately, AMD Radeon GPUs are stuck on OpenCL in Windows whereas CUDA is restricted to Nvidia GPUs. And AMD has already depreciated not only OpenCL in general (in favor of promoting the HIP API, which no Adobe program currently supports), but also support for all of its pre-RDNA (RX 5000 series) GPUs to a reduced, legacy driver support status. Your RX 580 GPU, unfortunately, predates the RDNA architecture by two full generations. And it has always performed poorly in Adobe video programs no matter what – barely any faster (effectively) than even very recent integrated Intel IGPs to justify the money, space and power usage.
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