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JonesVid
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May 26, 2022
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Has Adobe lost its way in positioning Premiere Pro to the right market segment ?

  • May 26, 2022
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Looking at the extensive feedback I've seen recently on the Forum regarding new features such as the 'controversial' header bar implementation and the import screen that was incorporated in V23.x - is this a dumbed down product that Adobe are trying to push in the market?.

You cannot appeal to the casual laptop mobile editor and serious Desktop user at the same time surely when making user interface changes ?

I'm not a Professional editing house - I'm just an enthusiast hobby video editor and I find some of these new features puzzling .......and sometimes annoying.

To a Video Production house it would seem to me these could also give rise to a few questions, "where are Adobe going with this Software?".

I'd like to see less gloss and 'cool features that are 'me too' and  trendy ... ' and focus on investing engineering resources that give real performance improvement and stop wasting time on messing about with user interfaces that really don't need it. These are low priority rated developments in my view.

Putting a coat of shiny paint on an inefficient engine does not really fool anyone, and ultimately drives users away.

Despite promises of performance improvements in new releases I have found quite the opposite.

Very slow rendering times in some cases on a well managed fast PC Windows platform. I see similar feedback on this Forum from MAC users too.

So in short, I'd like to see Adobe Product management prioritise things that really matter to a good cross section of users. Well established professional users, intermediate users and beginners.

A bit more QA in post development would also be a positive.

 

On a final point, I see references on the Forum to a recent marketing user survey that helped shape the 'controversial features' that were included in the latest releases.

Who gets these surveys, what criteria are used to determine who gets them and how much of it is shaped by what the competition is doing ?.

 

I'll post this on the User Forum as well to see if anyone in Adobe reads it, however, everything I've ever posted there hardly ever gets any meaningful feedback from Adobe employees at all.

 

We are still paying our annual Creative Cloud Subscription - well, we are ....... for now.

Money talks.

 

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Warren Heaton
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August 21, 2022

Quick note:  If rendering time is important, be sure to use a CODEC that supports Smart Rendering.

 

Editing workflows built around ProRes, for example, tend to be fast, responsive, and - by comparison to ones built around MP4 or any format that compresses between the frames - trouble-free on both Mac and Windows.

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August 4, 2022

"On a final point, I see references on the Forum to a recent marketing user survey that helped shape the 'controversial features' that were included in the latest releases.

Who gets these surveys,"

The people who should be getting these surveys are the users who care most about Pr, as proven by their repeat participation on User Voice and the Adobe Support Community!  Hell, I even created the only Facebook user group dedicated to helping improve Pr (https://www.facebook.com/groups/premiereprofeaturerequests) and I never heard about this survey.

I DID give them feedback during the Beta phase however, but all of it seems to have fallen on deaf ears.  I don't blame the engineers.  I blame the product manager(s) who decide what gets done and what gets ignored for another 5-10 years.  The redisign truly feels like an ego-fueled pet project.  The fact no one was asking for this (perhaps asside from some clueless survey respondents), smacks of apathy for our needs as editors. 

Kevin J. Monahan Jr.
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August 6, 2022
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"On a final point, I see references on the Forum to a recent marketing user survey that helped shape the 'controversial features' that were included in the latest releases.

Who gets these surveys,"

 

Exactly. Sounds like nonsense to me. I don't know of any such thing. What survey? Where did you hear that? Don't believe everything you hear. 😉

 

Kevin

Kevin Monahan - Sr. Community and Engagement Strategist – Adobe Pro Video and Audio
JonesVid
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August 9, 2022

Kevin

Someone mentioned surveys on the Community Forum, somewhere,  but obviously,  fake news !.

But ..... you know it might be a good thing to put out a few user surveys from time to time.

This community is just User to User where we all share frustrations - and also tips to solve stuff now and again which is very useful.

However we are still lacking communication with the Product Management team who define the Premiere Pro product road map and evolution. The Engineers just implement what they are told.

At least that is how it used to work in my Communications systems world for Voice & Data Networking systems development.

Could we make more widespread  user surveys happen?. Is that such a bad idea?

 

Peru Bob
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May 26, 2022

Please post that here, where the Adobe engineers read all threads:
https://adobe-video.uservoice.com/forums/911233-premiere-pro

JonesVid
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May 27, 2022

Many thanks for the link - I have just posted this topic there....

I've tried to stress that we need to be constructive about this as users.

This is a topic for Product and Engineering Management. Not the Engineers themselves. Its a question about how prioritisation of new developments are made when fundamentally there are more important things being ignored.