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cc_merchant
Inspiring
September 7, 2014
Question

Just curious: Is CC worth the money and bondage ?

  • September 7, 2014
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16 months after introduction of CC, I'm curious to know your feelings about the rental and bondage model of CC.

Was it worth it?

I know that by not going the rental route but remaining on CS6 Master Collection, I saved $ 1,500 (based on European prices) but forfeited the new 'features and bugs'. I'm glad I did not spend all that money on rent, but how about you? Did you get your money's worth from the rental? In hindsight, was it worth it? And in 3 or 5 years time, what do you think, after spending another $ 1,800 (US, 3 years) or $ 3,200 (Europe, 3 years) up to $ 3,000 (US, 5 years) or $ 5,400 (Europe, 5 years) and having to pay each month for eternity?

Of course, if your boss foots the bill, you don't worry about that, but what if you need to pay the bill? Still an attractive deal?

I found this diagram on the internet and that pretty much says it all:

This does not take into account the possibility to BUY from MainConcept or Cineform extra plug-ins that add codecs for new camera formats not supported in CS6.

As I said, just curious.

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    Steven L. Gotz
    Inspiring
    September 15, 2014

    Well, my situation is different than many, because I didn't upgrade from CS3 until I subscribed to the Creative Cloud just after it became available, which basically got me the CS6 Master Collection for only a monthly subscription. It has been over two years and I have not yet paid enough to cover the Master Collection. Add to that price what the upgrade might have been, and I think I am still a few years away from paying the full price. Or what would have been the full price plus upgrade fees.

    If I had owned CS6 outright, I probably would not yet have upgraded.

    But I would have liked to upgrade, and would have resented not doing so until I might have given in. Maybe just the $9.95 Photoshop/Lightroom bundle though.

    As for beta testing, I used to do that for Adobe. This is not like that at all. Not even close. But I do agree that Adobe needs to enhance their beta testing to catch more bugs. Unlike shooternz, I did have a problem that prevented me from using CC 2014 until the H.264 problem was fixed. But it wasn't that long and I did have software I could use to do the job. I just didn't get the new toys right away.

    I really like some of the new features, and I am not at all unhappy paying a monthly fee to get the latest and greatest Adobe software. But as I said, my situation is different. I didn't spend the big bucks to get CS6 and then have the rug pulled out from under me like you did. I signed up for a low entry fee and it worked out nicely. And living in the USA I don't get shafted with unreasonably high foreign prices and the additional VAT.

    Besides, if all I had to do to live for eternity was pay Adobe a monthly fee - it would be well worth it!

    Edit: I am very curious to see what kind of changes Adobe is talking about in the announcement they made recently about the enhancements across the video products. If they add "Adobe Camera RAW" to Premiere Pro (taken from Photoshop), I will be a very happy guy. I am so much better at using Photoshop to grade my footage than I am at SpeedGrade - all because I learned Camera RAW for my photos.

    artofzootography.com
    Participating Frequently
    September 15, 2014

    Had the CC costs equated more fairly to the product cycle upgrade costs that we used to have then I would have been a CCer by now.

    it is being ripped off after years of use, since 1994 to be precise, that I cannot stand.

    Anyway, retirement is only a few months away, then it is hobbyist editing for me with the kit I have and maybe an upgrade to another producers software system.

    jasonvp
    Inspiring
    September 13, 2014

    cc_merchant wrote:

    As I said, just curious.

    As I'd stated to shooter, you're not "just curious".  You're trolling.

    I'll play along.  I've come to appreciate the CC model, though I suspect I'd be happy/happier without it.  It has allowed me dabble with other software in the suite that I've begun using fairly regularly now.  Aside from Premiere and Photoshop, I'm using Audition a lot.  I've dabbled in AE a bit.  Muse is standing by when I finally decide to start building my website (some day.. honest).  The barrier to entry for a lot of these was a bit too high (cost) previously.  Now?  It's more affordable spread out over a longer term.

    There are nice pricing deals that pop up from time to time.  I was paying $20/month for Pr and Ps when CC first launched.  When it came time to re-up, Adobe briefly offered a full CC license for $30/month.  For $360 for 12 months, I'll get to use any of the CC apps I want.  Next year, that monthly charge might go up to the standard $50/month.  But I'm kinda betting they'll have another "special" running.

    Participating Frequently
    September 8, 2014

    Like you no CC, in UK so saved enough by not subscribing to buy a new Panasonic DSLR.


    So who is the monkey?

    There have been to many problems induced by upgrades to even risk it, remember with CC you are the beta tester.

    shooternz
    Legend
    September 8, 2014

    Beta Tester!

    I have had no issues with anything in CC or CC2014.

    Rock solid and powerful. ( New update features for you to salivate on...also coming as advised today in PPRO Forum)

    BTW - would you like to see the brand new Sony FS700RH I just bought from what I saved (ie. "earned.") 

    What the monkey bought..

    shooternz
    Legend
    September 7, 2014

    In...before this gets moved to the Lounge

    As I have just paid my second yearly subscription I am well placed to comment.

    The work ( income) I did with Premiere alone in the 1st year easily amortised the cost of approx $50US per month, ( I pay it annually in NZD$).  Edits costing from $1000 to $5000 makes this cost "small potatoes" as an overhead!

    This over head cost  more  when doing CS Upgrades during the  Perpetual Licence versions and I now have more apps in  the toolbox.

    I have been very happy with the regular updates and fature sets ( ignoring the dumbness of the EOF Indicator)..and feel I am ahead.

    jasonvp
    Inspiring
    September 8, 2014

    shooternz wrote:

    In...before this gets moved to the Lounge

    One might ask:  why feed the troll?  His OP was pretty blatant.

    shooternz
    Legend
    September 8, 2014

    Because I enjoy taunting  him in his permanent regret!