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Stepping Artifacts with external height map

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September 6, 2021
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Hei!

When I use heightmaps that i bake externaly as a base i get these stepping artifacts even though my bakes look smooth. any ideas where this might come from. Tried 8 bit and 16 bit images, png tga and tiff. Same issue with textures from xnormal, maya and marmoset

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Vincent GAULT

Community Manager

Can we see the normal map as well?

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Valentin36494975w5ba

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Hi!

I'm confronted with the same problem actually. I tried a lot, like 16bit pictures and also trying to work with 32bit data (didn't work).
In all cases I used "Shapes" Templates from Substance Designer. Maybe they are the problem? Honestly I couldn't generate a better picture as a base in PSD myself. So now I accepted my fate having these artifacts... but still not happy...

Does anyone know the solution?
There must be a way (wich could be taking no close up renderings and ignoring the artifacts) but I just wanna know. Gives me nightmares :')

Sincerely
crying Diana

Cyril Dellenbach

Community Manager

Hi crying Diana,

Thanks for the message.

This issue was indeed due to the bitmap being in 8 bit depth. We had (and still have) frequent discussions on this topic, and we should maybe make things clearer for users (maybe with some sort of warning).

You can check our latest Community Digest, we dedicated a section to this issue, and we also have a dedicated page in our documentation.

Basically you have one of your node that is in 8 bit depth, which isn't enough for a smooth gradient resulting with these stepping artifacts in the Normal and Height outputs. You have to locate the node and switch its bit depth to 16. Please note that switching an external bitmap to 16 won't work.

Regards,

Cyril Dellenbach (Micro) | QA Support Artist | Adobe

davescm

Community Expert

Your screenshot shows the hallmarks of an 8 bit heightmap which only has 256 discrete levels between black an white i.e. lowest possible and highest possible. The number of levels is restricted even further if your heightmap is mainly mid values.

This is confirmed in your 2D view which shows the height channel as 8bpc.

Use 16 bit throughout the chain for height information.

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LyndersonAuthor

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'Tried 8 bit and 16 bit images, png tga and tiff. Same issue with textures from xnormal, maya and marmoset'

Bit depth doesn't change anything unfortunately

Screenshot I just a simplyfied version of the graph

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LyndersonAuthor

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HQ Blur and other nodes that soften make things worse

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