3. Mobile: AIR it's probably the most "productive" runtime ever, even in maintenance mode on the past few years (don't try to argue that, because if you do, you are a fool) but we all live with that.

The issue is, Mobile requires a productive entity maintenance the runtime all the time, period and on that field, AIR (or better who support it), could not be the worst ever !

Even if we get an updated before August, the issue will happen again any time soon.

The best solution is to stay far from AIR on Mobile scope or you if are a gambler that it's the best option, lol.

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ASWC

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I'm not criticizing your English, you are obviously not a native English speaker, but most of what you say doesn't make any sense even after reading very carefully every single sentence.

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hferreira80

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Obviously

I'm glad that you tried

Means that you are really interested in what I have to say

Tip: Use the automatically translate if you can understand what I just wrote

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PedroFernandezEteria

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Yeah, I know that app stores generate another business opportunity ... But it only generates it for "some" who have some luck. Entering "the game" of app stores does not produce a mathematical benefit. And on the way you find yourself with more problems than in another type of technology business.

I understand your particular case, but it is probably different from that of a majority, which probably have to develop other things besides what they have in the app stores. (in the end you're left wondering if it's really worth the app store)

There are other businesses in the technological field.

As for Adobe AIR, as I mention, we are lucky not to work for app stores. Therefore we are happy with what solves us for that other type of targets. It is one of the differences between one type of business and another.

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PedroFernandezEteria

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Has anyone thought of it from another point of view? Yeah, I know perfectly well that reality is what it is, but I do not understand how it is possible for developers to let these situations pass without complaining about the "real problem" ...

I do not understand the business they have set up with the app stores for devices. It is pure dictatorship. Very often things change that breaks "any" technology. It is a market without stability. You have to be aware of the frequent changes in technology of each mobile OS, of every change in the policies of both Apple and Google ...

Describing a simile. It is as if we develop an application (of any type) for desktop and it is not allowed to work because it turns out that a series of companies or people carry out a censorship of parts that they "do not like". And turn the wheel to start and stick with them to approve your application ... But this does not happen on desktop, thank God. We have total freedom (the normal, the logical).

But the only way to distribute device apps is through their "app stores" ... Is this a viable way to make a living ?.

Sincerely, I am happy for those who have managed to make a living with apps distributed in device stores, but in our programming department we do not see this way of working viable. Its not a good business model. It is only convenient for Apple and Google. And for a lucky few who have worked a lot in some application and have been lucky enough to sell many copies.

We work on multimedia for desktop executables, in html5 responsive + canvas for browser developments. And occasionally on apps on controlled Android devices for occasional events (Apple iOS is much restrictive ... dictatorship again) easily installing any application (doing what we want).

App stores are a headache. That is not business. Developers should go out to protest en masse, not letting the matter pass like easily manipulated people.

Maybe at some point in the future there will be another way to distribute applications for devices. A more flexible (and logical) way for the developer. Until that moment arrives I wish you luck (with any technology).

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As I am a co-founder of an award wining mobile agency, I will reply to the concerns / thoughts about mobile. I have been doing mobile since 2009 (even back in the blackberry days). You get in the game by accepting that the companies behind the stores control the market and you have to play with their rules. You do that, cause they give you access to a huge userbase. What this means is that for example, one of our apps, made enough revenue, to sustain our company for 2 years even if we didn't publish anything. You can have huge success, but you have to deal with google and apples dictatorship.

As you say, things change all the time. To be exact multiple times per year, but this is something we know and have solutions, especially when we do native apps, react native, flutter or unity. As you understand, this is a bit harder with AIR as we always fly blind.

So my point is, that this wasn't build with developers in mind. This was build by big companies to make money, by giving us a distribution channel. Don't expect them to change.

Back to AIR, people who don't see that losing the quarter release, is a big red flag, are plain ignorant. Also for people who may be confused from the 32bit / 64 situation. In August 1st, the issue is not that we won't be able to update our apps. The issue is that from August 1st, all apps which are not 64bit, won't appear in the Play Store for 64devices (99% of current devices). So basically all our AIR apps, will be suspended. Just to grasp the gravity of the situation.

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Frédéric C.

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The issue is that from August 1st, all apps which are not 64bit, won't appear in the Play Store for 64devices (99% of current devices). So basically all our AIR apps, will be suspended. Just to grasp the gravity of the situation.

Only after August 2021. Before that, 32bits apps will still be served to 64bits devices.

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Leo KanelAuthor

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So it is official. No 1st quarter update for 2019. So next possible date for stable release now is May 9th.

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Flipline

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Did they make a statement anywhere about the delay? Obviously it's late since the 1st quarter is over, just curious why you mentioned May 9th would be the soonest and not sometime in April.

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Leo KanelAuthor

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There is no mention Flipline. However there used to be a study pattern for AIR released

1. Release of Beta version in the labs, for 4-5 weeks, then
2. Release of Stable version on the 2nd Tuesday of the following month.

So based on that logic, May 9th might be a possible release date if we get a beta early in April.

If this doesn't happen, next possible date is June 13th (2nd Tuesday of the quarter month).

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zasflower2014

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AIR 32 beta 101 is OK.
i use AIR develop this APP:
‎Oriole Music Player on the App Store
it is a music player,can play flac wav mp3 dsf dff aiff aifc music file.
Apple has passed the app review.has by xcode 10.1 sdk

but for a music player,there is a big bug at there. can't show info at ios Music Control Center and recive button event.

hope Adobe can support it ,or give a ios ANE.

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g4r37h

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You should proof-read your copy. You don't need this first instance of "high-end":

"This is a hi-end super high-end music player."

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zasflower2014

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the sound is very good,i use as3 for play flac and DSP Sound.works very well.

you can see the user who paid $49.99 for this app he says:

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Hi,

Appreciate your app!

Oriole is a great application because it brings the best audio experience for ios, Oriole is superior to iAudioGate, Kaiser and etc.

With a price of $49.99 it is absolutely worth t to have the experience of enjoying music on your iPhone device, it delivers the perfect sound quality for all types of headphones.

Thank you, 5 Stars!

Best,

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the sound is really good.

the best of best music player at ios is written by Adobe AIR.

so it is hi-end.

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Leo KanelAuthor

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Well based in previous years, it was always on specific dates (2nd tuesday of every quarter month) so up to now it was planned and not released "when ready".

I guess we will see, it just felt like long time since previous version.

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natural_criticB837

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I am also checking the Air beta page almost daily since I was expecting Air 33 to hit early March. I have some hopes that the delay is due to the integration of the Android 64 Bits requirement, of course

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hferreira80

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Probably.

I guess that if they release v33 with Android 64 bits support, people will tell that they knew and how Adobe is great but if they release without fulfill these requirements will be the end of the world.

Mark by post.

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Leo KanelAuthor

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This is true, but in most previous versions, we got a beta versions 4-5 weeks before the stable one.

Also the previous years:
2018 - 1st Quarter Stable - 14 March
2017 - 1st Quarter Stable - 13 March
2016 - 1st Quarter Stable - 10 March

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zwetan_uk

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yeah OK but ti does not really matter

I could bet those release are planed on "best effort" and other stuff can take the priority
or it could also be "it will be ready when it will be ready"

simply put, that's the developers working on it that decide,

whatever cause the delay (if we can call that a delay)

I'm pretty sure it is for good reason(s)

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zwetan_uk

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quarterly release means end of the month is the end of the quarter
so that would be end of March for the first quarter

some Adobe AIR releases in the past were around 8th of April

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