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adobe audition 13.0.5 melodyne4 Bounce

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April 23, 2020
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I'm Japanese, so I ask a question by automatic translation

I want to bounce an effect with adobe audition and change the pitch with melodyne4

Pitch is not reflected even if you bounce something in the track effect

Other effects are reflected

Please tell me if you know the solution

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Isegal

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Hi. I've got more or less the same Problem. I tried with Celemony Melodyne, Antares Autotune and one that is called "vielklang", all as a trial-installation. All of them should do more or less the same, for me important manual pitch correction.

Celemony Melodyne: Changes will not be applied to wave, even if you are applying and everything looks good - only when you hear it again you notice that the work was in vain.

Antares Autotune: Changes will be applied, but no matter what was worked out, the entire sequence is reduced to just one tone!

Vielklang: Audition cant open this Plugin, it isnt showed in plugin window (audition and plugin are 64bit, VST & VST3 Version - both were not found by audition).

I downloaded Trail-Versions of other DAWs, Presonus Studio One 4 and the actual Reaper. All three Plugins work fine with Studio One and Reaper - so I'm pretty sure it's not a failure of these three plugins, the problem is in Audition.

I read something about ARA and ARA2 -support. I don't know what ARA means or is, but it's mostly said that it is important for those plugins and as far as I know, Audition don't support ARA. Is this correct?
That said, is it also true that such plugins can never work in audition?

Before someone tells me "manual pitch correction"-tool in Audition could be the solution - tried to learn to use it. Not that difficult, but it is heavy time consuming, confusing and simply not an alternative to the plugins mentioned before.

n addition, it is extremely cumbersome that this, like the plugins mentioned, if they would work, can only be used in the editor. In other words, you can only hear the track you are editing, never in the meantime how the corrections affect the overall sound.

It is clear to me that Audition is not known as the DAW with which you record and mix orchestras or bands. But to say the least it is quite embarrassing that Audition is so behind the times, considering that it is one of the much more expensive DAWs on the market.

In summary: Audition does not seem to be able to use these plugins correctly (explicitly the graphical, manual mode), right or wrong?
If correct, will there be an update in the foreseeable future to compensate for this weakness?
If such an update came, would it turn out to be possible to use a manual pitch correction in multitrack mode (would be very helpful!)?

Again, what is currently offered as manual pitch correction is unfortunately of little help, much too slow to use and also only available in editor mode - in short, useless.

Thanks a lot for any help or ideas or knowledge 😉

SteveG_AudioMasters_

Community Expert

The Melodyne issue is a known bug, and acknowledged by the developers. Melodyne worked fine with the previous three releases - it's only the present one that has the issues. The other plugins I know nothing about, but I will note that Audition has a long history of being very grumpy about poorly-written VSTs, and there are quite a lot of those about. Even Waves had to do a rewrite because of Audition, after all.

And there's nothing wrong with using Audition for editing and mixing orchestras or live band performances - I do it regularly, and it works fine. And anyway, it's not a DAW as such - it's editing software and not intended as a music composition tool. And as for thinking that Audition is expensive, I suggest that you have a look at Pyramix for a comparison. The basic Pyramix 12 is currently $2,656.00, and that really doesn't get you a lot. And all the other ones that offer similar facilities (Sequoia, Sadie etc) are also similarly expensive, when you consider that with most of them you have to pay for upgrades as you go along. And by the accounts I've read, they're all perfectly capable of crashing at embarrassing moments. So Audition is actually pretty good value, even though as you say it's not a mainstream music product - that's not really what it's about.

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Isegal

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Hello.

Thanks for sharing knowledge. Okay, maybee Audition isnt the end of the line in price - after downloading trial-versions of Reaper and Studio One I looked what they or just Cubase will cost, that was basicly my argument.

But the price isnt what this threat should be about...

And you are right, I use Audition for mixing orchetras and bands, my comment was more aimed at the fact that other DAWs are represented more often for this work than audition, so audition is more of a niche here. I think the focus here is on other things, e.g. TV and radio production. I love the workflow and the possibilities of Audtion. Unfortunately, it does not help me if a relevant part of my order cannot be completed ...

Mainly I see that those Plugins work fine in other DAWs - but not in Audition.

The Melodyne issue is a known bug, and acknowledged by the developers. - Great, I read about that, posts about this bug going back to january. Means "acknowledged" that this will be fixed some day?

Next point, Antares Autotune is the other "big player" in pitch correction, doesnt work, too. (poorly-written VSTs - well, do you think?) Only in Audition. Kind of strange that both major plugins for this only don't work in Audition but only in one case it's a Audition bug?

Don't get me wrong, I'm sure you know way better than me. Thats why I asked. But maybee you understand why I don't believe in two or three seperate problems. As far as I can imagine, it seems to be the same problem.

Waves does the job? Well, it's GUI is a bit outdatet, would be fine, but we're stuckin in a very small window - so its a scrolling adventure. And I don't know if it's work good in multitrack, but don't believe in that - do you know?

I need a solution, Waves would be ok for next few weeks, but not longer. You said that older Verions of Audition can handle Melodyne? Sure? Only in Editor or multitrack too? Maybee you can tell me what do you use?

Didn't get lots of benefit from last updates, downgrade would be okay for me. Nevertheless it's still a disappointing situation...

Thanks for your help!! If that came across (language barrier), my comments are certainly not directed against the one who was kindly willing to help me here, on the contrary, I am grateful for suggestions.

SteveG_AudioMasters_

Community Expert

I tested this, and I think that there is something strange going on. I tried to use Melodyne 4 from within Audition, and even though it says that it is installed correctly, Melodyne will not open if you make a selection and try to use it. I get an effect window in which it should open, but it is blank - nothing at all. I have tried this in Waveform and Multitrack and it is the same in both.

I do not know what is wrong with it. On the face of it, it should work like this, but clearly it doesn't. I don't even know if this is a Melodyne problem or an Audition one, but I will try to find out. My experience of Melodyne though is that it works well as a standalone program, and that's how I always use it.

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