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May 10, 2020
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Audio Interface with Adobe Audition 1.5

  • May 10, 2020
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I'm using Adobe Audition 1.5 with Focusrite Scarlett 2i2 interface. I can set the input to Scarlett OR output to scarlett and it works perfectly but if I set both input and output to the Scarlett Adobe freezes and gives an error saying another program may be using the same device, but there is no other program running.  This means that I can't use it for recording. I have to use my stand alone multitracker and then play each track in turn into adobe audition which is very time consuming.

Is there a way around this problem or is this just a limitation of this old version of Adobe Audition?

Any help will be much appreciated.

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Community Expert
May 12, 2020

Is it possible to monitor the vocal direct without latency using the interface but have 100% wet effects from the audition track. this will have some delay but often you add predelay to the reverb anyway.

SteveG_AudioMasters_
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May 12, 2020

That's true - delayed reverb is the only effect that this works with though, and you still have to be careful about how you set it up.

SteveG_AudioMasters_
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May 10, 2020

Which driver are you attempting to use?  You should have a choice of two I think and it's worth trying both. I can't see any reason why it wouldn't work, although if it doesn't, it's likely to be a combination of the OS and driver preventing it, I think - Audition 1.5 has always been perfectly happy to use a single device for input and output.

PaukelAuthor
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May 11, 2020

Thanks for your reply Steve. I hadn't thought about drivers because Windows recognised it automatically but I have now downloaded the driver from the Focusrite website and it has cured the problem to a degree. I can now use the Scarlett for both in and out but I can only hear what I'm recording if I set it to direct monitoring which means I hear what I'm singing before it goes into the computer.

You see what I'm trying to achieve is to be able to hear effects when I'm singing but have it recorded dry. I thought I could do this by arming two tracks and having effects on one but I don't seem to be able to monitor what's being recorded. I've watched a lot of Youtube videos on recording with a usb interface and a computer but none of them have explained how to have effects while recording but to have the track recorded dry. This seems to me to be an essential part of a recording set up.

SteveG_AudioMasters_
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May 11, 2020

Audition only records dry - even if you put effects on the track. And that's by design. The problem with having effects on a track is that for them to be there, the signal from your sound device has to be digitised, pass into Audition, then be passed through whatever effects you are using, then sent back out, and converted back to an electrical signal again in your sound device. Invariably this takes some time - and in a slower machine, quite a lot of time; a significant fraction of a second. And that will screw with your head!

 

That's why generally, it's not the done thing to record whilst you are listening to effects, because it means that you have to have Audition's  monitoring turned on, rather than using the direct monitor path through your sound device. So you hear yourself delayed, and that's what messes with your performance. The effect is called 'latency', and it's completely unavoidable - even on state of the art computers.

 

And this is why there's a direct monitoring path through your sound device. It's generally guitarists who insist that they can't perform without about six effects at once, and the only way they can really manage that is to use external 'real' effects, which of course don't suffer from processing delays.

 

So even if you record with effects on a track in Audition, the moment you remove them afterwards, you'll find you have a dry track; those effects were being fed back to the output, but that's all they were - not recorded at all. The only way to record those effects at the time is to feed the output back to a spare input and record that. Not much point though!