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July 3, 2019
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Dynamic Link between Audition and Premiere Pro

  • July 3, 2019
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Recently, I discovered dynamic linking Premiere Pro with audition and this has caused me to be undecided about which process is better.

Before this discovery, I used to export the video file and import it into audition as a reference file while doing my sound design in the multitrack. When I am done, I mixdown the session and import it as a single audio track into Premiere Pro. The sound design work I do is for animation which means I have a lot of audio clips to work with. When I used dynamic link, it was fairly the same process except when I export back into Premiere Pro all tracks with their clips are imported. I personally like my premiere pro interface to not have so many audio tracks and such.

I feel that the dynamic link is for editors who want to do some quick audio work and not for complex sound design.

Basically I want to know what exactly peoples thoughts are on this and why they would or wouldn't prefer using dynamic link.

Thanks.

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SteveG_AudioMasters_
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July 10, 2019

This is almost going to sound like a moan...

miriamlovessound  wrote

I feel that the dynamic link is for editors who want to do some quick audio work and not for complex sound design.

Basically I want to know what exactly peoples thoughts are on this and why they would or wouldn't prefer using dynamic link.

The thing about video production is that there are many different approaches to the way you do the sound part of it, and obviously not all methods are really going to suit all productions. I used to do a lot of documentary work, and the processes that I used to 'sweeten' sound relied more on having a basic actuality sound track originally edited on the VTR, which you could subsequently lay off onto a multitrack machine that was SMPTE-locked to the VT machine - a process that on its own that could be troublesome in terms of actually achieving a lock, with quite extensive pre-roll times, and it was dead easy to get it a frame out...

Technically at this point, you could run the multitrack on its own to add and edit other material, and that's generally what we did - without pictures. We only ever looked at the end result at the point of lay-back - when the multitrack output was going via a mixer. And yes, you could have several goes at it before you got it right - what a pain that was!

Now that is basically what you have been doing up to this point, hopefully without all the sync hassle, and personally I don't have any particular problems with working like that either. Essentially what should ultimately happen with the Dynamic Link process is exactly what it says on the tin - you'd be running Premiere and Audition together at the same time so that it would be possible to make changes on the fly before committing yourself at the encoding stage. But hey, it doesn't do that, does it? Yes there's a 'dynamic link' in terms of clips and placement but there's no way to sync the playback in Audition and Premiere so that there's a real dynamic link that actually appears to link the transports, and that's what I'd prefer to see happening one day. Yes I realise that there are some significant stumbling blocks to this - not least that you'd almost require a separate transport control model to lock them, and you'd have to sort out where the audio was actually coming from. Oh, hang on a minute, that's exactly what we had to do to achieve our original lay-offs...

But hey, this is technically still a work in progress - I realise that. But for me, I'd rather prefer to be able to use a Dynamic Link - if there was a real one. As it stands, it's almost frustrating (unless I've missed something, but I don't think I have - answers on a postcard please). Until then, your preferred method of working is more or less the one I'll stick with too - basic video edit with actuality, save it and open it in Audition, do all the work and then have the annoyance of having to lay the revised audio back in Premiere again, because you can't do that any more in Audition (despite the fact that you used to be able to...)

So I dunno - it still appears to need work, certainly in the way it's displayed.

ryclark
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July 10, 2019

Yes that is the way I have always worked since day one of Audition. Just a separate video viewing copy with maybe rough sync audio to open into Audition as a guide. Then add audio from pristine original source and sync manually. Do all the sweeting, SFX etc. Then, at least in the days of AA3 which still had MIDI Timecode support, I could lock Audition to the video playback timecode and layback the new video onto the sound track of the video recorder. Or in latter days just send off the mixed master, or stems, as a.wav file to be recombined with the pictures. I don't use Premiere for video editing, never got on with it, so export the audio from my preferred NLE software into Audition and manually lay the master audio mix back again into the video editor to re-code the final video file. None of this mamby-pamby Dynamic Linking for me.

Known Participant
July 11, 2019

I guess I am on the right track then. My boss was hounding me about using dynamic link and I said I just wasn't up for it. I will borrow your words next time he mentions it..."mamby-pamby".

R Neil Haugen
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July 9, 2019

I'd love to get ryclark​ or SteveG(AudioMasters) or  one of the other folks around here to comment on this also.

Neil

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