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collen
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October 1, 2017
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Effects automation/evolution - multitrack

  • October 1, 2017
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Hi folks.

During a project I'm working on, I have a slow autopan that only needs to be applied to a music bed at certain times, based on when there is a silence longer than 4 seconds in the voiceover track, and then returning to central panning when the voiceover resumes.  It needs to do this smoothly, with no obvious jump in the panning.

The easiest way for me to do this would be to have the effect in the effects rack of the music bed permanently and then automate the wet/dry of the effects rack, or the individual effect when required.  But I can't see any way to automate effects or plot any evolution of effects properties.

I could achieve this result pretty easily in Ableton but I'd rather keep the whole project in Audition.  Does anyone have any ideas how I can accomplish this?

As I was writing this I thought maybe I could sidechain the autopan in some way - but I'm not sure what I would sidechain it to!

Although the autopan is only required when there is a silence of more than 4 seconds, it would need to come on at the START of that silence, not after 4 seconds of silence.

Many thanks in advance for anyone that can take the time to help out.  I'm using Audition CC.

Collen

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    Correct answer ryclark

    D'oh!  Didn't realise there would be different functionality!  I thought Audition doesn't have an autopan - maybe it does?


    No it doesn't. That's why I, for one, was having a little difficulty working out how you were trying to do what you were doing. if we'd known that it was a VST plugin then we might have directed you to the Automation lanes sooner.

    Anyway you are sorted now and that's all that matters.

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    ryclark
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    October 1, 2017

    Normally you would use the Track Pan envelope for this, drawing the pan in manually at appropriate moments. However it might be possible to use a sidechain but, unfortunately, the only Audition effect that has sidechain input is the Dynamics Processor. usually this is used for auto ducking music under speech. In that case you use the dialogue track as the sidechain key source with the Dynamics Processor inserted on the music track. But I suppose you might be able to do an image shift if you split the music bed onto two tracks and use the Dynamics Processor to just Duck one of them. But the timing requirement makes it difficult to do automatically.

    In many cases like this it ends up being easier to take the simple route and manually draw it in on the Pan envelope on the music track. By the time you have researched, found a method and set it up as required you could probably have finished the manual approach although it may seem tedious.

    collen
    collenAuthor
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    October 1, 2017

    Thanks for the reply.  I dug around and realised I could only sidechain with Dynamics Processor, which is a shame.

    Still looking for an automated or semi-automated way of doing this, as this is the first of a number of these projects - if I can find an elegant solution it will save me time in the long term.

    But it seems like you may be correct and I should just get intimate with the track pan envelope...just realised I can spline the curves of the envelope which approximates the smoothness of the autopan I was using.