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July 31, 2018
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Efficiency with Markers

  • July 31, 2018
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Hello All.

I edit 2 interview-based podcasts and I'm looking for ways to improve my efficiency. My current work-flow is:

1) Insert both interview wavs to multitrack

2) Group them to sync

3) Speed up playback by 200% to reduce the listening time

4) Mark interview thematically with subclip markers - make any major cuts

5) Mark interview for vocal tics and mess ups (ums, ahs, etc)

Now this is where I'm having trouble.

Currently, I go through, select each marker and command + k to split, then delete the newly made clip (of the vocal tic). There are a few solutions I can think of to improve this workflow, but I don't know how to execute, if it's possible.

I would like to:

1) Return the interview speed to normal while having the markers maintain their place in the session. (Currently, they stay locked to the timeline, this still happens when I unselect this option from the "Markers and Metadata" preferences

2)  Select all of the markers and ripple delete everything (instead of having to do it individually)

Any ideas?

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    Correct answer SteveG_AudioMasters_

    Your problem here is that you're trying to use markers in multi-track, and the only place they can possibly be is on the time-line; they have no relationship to files at all in that environment. The only markers that will stay with clips are ones inserted in the original clip file, and even they can get screwed up if you forget, and edit the original file. The issue is that all markers, wherever you place them, are counted from the start of the file, so trimming the start of the file, for instance, will move all of your markers to an earlier position than you thought they were.

    My suggestion is this: Initially use multitrack to get just the sound right - don't worry about the content, just get the stereo (if that's what you're doing it in) right. Then mix this down to a file, and open it in Waveform view. Now put marker ranges around the bits you want to use (make a selection with the mouse and hit F8). You can also give these ranges sensible names if you want - probably a good idea if you have a lot of them. Then, if you right-click on any marker in the marker list, you get an option to place it into a multi-track session. So, you start a new session (this is your actual edit session) and place the ranges you've marked as clips in it - they'll place on the highlighted track wherever you've left the cursor. Slide them around till you're happy with the final result, and mix it down.

    There are distinct advantages to this method. Firstly, if you want to extend or truncate a clip, it's easy - just drag it out or shrink it. Secondly, it's easy to add background FX or anything else you want to the mix session. And you don't have to mess about with splitting clips and messing with the timeline, which is pretty much going to drive you mad after a while.

    FWIW, this is actually the way Audition is designed to be used to edit radio!

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    Kevin J. Monahan Jr.
    Legend
    August 16, 2018

    ErickJ,

    What do you think of Steve's advice? Did it help you with your workflow? Let us know how you're doing currently.

    Thanks,
    Kevin

    Kevin Monahan - Sr. Community and Engagement Strategist – Adobe Pro Video and Audio
    SteveG_AudioMasters_
    Community Expert
    SteveG_AudioMasters_Community ExpertCorrect answer
    Community Expert
    July 31, 2018

    Your problem here is that you're trying to use markers in multi-track, and the only place they can possibly be is on the time-line; they have no relationship to files at all in that environment. The only markers that will stay with clips are ones inserted in the original clip file, and even they can get screwed up if you forget, and edit the original file. The issue is that all markers, wherever you place them, are counted from the start of the file, so trimming the start of the file, for instance, will move all of your markers to an earlier position than you thought they were.

    My suggestion is this: Initially use multitrack to get just the sound right - don't worry about the content, just get the stereo (if that's what you're doing it in) right. Then mix this down to a file, and open it in Waveform view. Now put marker ranges around the bits you want to use (make a selection with the mouse and hit F8). You can also give these ranges sensible names if you want - probably a good idea if you have a lot of them. Then, if you right-click on any marker in the marker list, you get an option to place it into a multi-track session. So, you start a new session (this is your actual edit session) and place the ranges you've marked as clips in it - they'll place on the highlighted track wherever you've left the cursor. Slide them around till you're happy with the final result, and mix it down.

    There are distinct advantages to this method. Firstly, if you want to extend or truncate a clip, it's easy - just drag it out or shrink it. Secondly, it's easy to add background FX or anything else you want to the mix session. And you don't have to mess about with splitting clips and messing with the timeline, which is pretty much going to drive you mad after a while.

    FWIW, this is actually the way Audition is designed to be used to edit radio!