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February 14, 2021
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Markers made in multitrack added to individual waveform files?

  • February 14, 2021
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Perhaps I just don't know what terms to search and would have already found the answer to my question within this forum by now, but...

 

I want to be able to make markers in multitrack view and have them exported easily to the individual files. As a recording engineer, I often sit with artists in order to markup the recorded multitrack for what is or is not liked, but then find myself having to transfer these markers / notes to the individual files one by one, and often more than once depending on how many files are simultaneously recorded. Moreover, if the timing of my markers must be very precise, I have to spend time recreating markers with the same precision which is very time consuming. MOREOVER, if my multitrack contains any starts and stops (and subsequently more than one recorded clip per channel, the time in the multitrack editor does not correspond to the time in the individual wafevorm, making this process extraordinarily tedious. If there is a better way, I would love to know, but do also consider that the damage is done in this case, and I need to be able to proceed in such a way that the markers get added to the individual clips. I need the clips to remain separated (because I have film that goes with each audio clip), so my only option at that point would be to export each clip from the multitrack which, although I believe that to be possible, would likely also be extremely tedious. Advice?

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Correct answer SteveG_AudioMasters_

Markers in Multitrack view are completely unrelated to files or clips - they are only timeline markers. If you move a clip, the marker stays where it is, as you've discovered. If I want to put markers on a file or a clip in Multitrack, I double-click on it so that it opens in waveform view and place the marker on the file there. Then, when you click back on to Multitrack view, the marker should show as a vertical dotted line on the file, and that will move with it, as it's not a session marker. In Edit>Multitrack Clips you can put a check in 'Synchronise Clips with Waveform Editor' and the file will open at the correct point - or where your cursor is when you click on it, anyway. If you have multiple clips from the file it makes no difference; opening the file in Waveform view won't alter any other clips you've placed from it.

 

But as it stands, you can't put a marker in a clip in Multitrack view. The reason for this is very simple; it's not a file when it's opened there - it's simply an indication of how a bit of a file's going to play back at that point in the timeline. To mark the actual file, it has to be opened in the (destructive) Waveform editor, because that's the only place that the additional metadata can be added to the end of it.

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steve.krAuthor
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February 14, 2021

I like the tidbit about double clickling on the multitrack to enter the waveform, that's helpful. I've seen you reply to other posts and I've seen you provide the same answer (sans the double-click thing), and so I expected no difference here. Considering that in the last hour I have found several forums asking similar questions only to be met with the same answer, I would hope that Adobe is taking notice and considering adding features.

 

Do you happen to know if Avid Pro Tools has the ability I am looking for? If so, I'll make the jump right away. I love Audition, but if Pro Tools can do this, it will save me enough time to be worth making the jump despite the price and re-training. At the very least, the fact that I would make the jump over this one feature should also serve Adobe by making them realize how important such a feature would be.

SteveG_AudioMasters_
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February 15, 2021

I don't use PT - never had the need to, so I couldn't tell you whether it does what you want or not. By some accounts it's not a particularly wonderful editor, though.

 

As for what might make Adobe jump - well it's not you, and it's not me. What makes Adobe jump is when one of their customers with seats running into six or seven figures says they want something. And that is because Adobe is run by finance suits, not the developers. The developers would love to do all sorts of things like this but it's not in their power to sanction them.

SteveG_AudioMasters_
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SteveG_AudioMasters_Community ExpertCorrect answer
Community Expert
February 14, 2021

Markers in Multitrack view are completely unrelated to files or clips - they are only timeline markers. If you move a clip, the marker stays where it is, as you've discovered. If I want to put markers on a file or a clip in Multitrack, I double-click on it so that it opens in waveform view and place the marker on the file there. Then, when you click back on to Multitrack view, the marker should show as a vertical dotted line on the file, and that will move with it, as it's not a session marker. In Edit>Multitrack Clips you can put a check in 'Synchronise Clips with Waveform Editor' and the file will open at the correct point - or where your cursor is when you click on it, anyway. If you have multiple clips from the file it makes no difference; opening the file in Waveform view won't alter any other clips you've placed from it.

 

But as it stands, you can't put a marker in a clip in Multitrack view. The reason for this is very simple; it's not a file when it's opened there - it's simply an indication of how a bit of a file's going to play back at that point in the timeline. To mark the actual file, it has to be opened in the (destructive) Waveform editor, because that's the only place that the additional metadata can be added to the end of it.

SteveG_AudioMasters_
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February 14, 2021

You can only edit a post until somebody else replies... which sort-of makes sense if you think about it. Also, you have to have posted a certain amount on the forums previously, before you are allowed the privilege anyway, I believe. None of that is of my making!

steve.krAuthor
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February 14, 2021

I was the first to reply, and even before I did I couldn't edit my post. I certainly don't blame you for that, but let's face it, if only for the reasons I listed previously, it is incredibly stupid not to allow edits.

steve.krAuthor
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February 14, 2021

Oh, and why the heck can't I edit my post? I can only reply now? What if I accidentally said something offensive or incorrect? I can't fix it? Whose brilliant idea was that?